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Yep, that's part of Turner "Junior's" game. He's doing what he can in my opinion with the talent available. It boils down to the lack of talent and the lack of execution - not to mention the lack of time in his system. It'll come around as the season progresses, and after picking up a few key pieces in the offseason.

Yeah .. Im not hating on what Turner is trying to do. I like the pre snap motion. I like that we were proactive in shopping for ingredients by adding pass catching backs in Gibson/McKissic in a heavy RB pass catching scheme.

But ... I want to see some down field passing. Weve been waiting all year. Everything is within 20 yards of the LOS with 80% coming within 5 yards.

I hope this isnt his final version. Winning the TOP is great and all but, as we saw against the Lions, you can go 10 plus plays but then have 1 sack or 1 penalty or 1 missed FG and you walk away with nothing.
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Watched the skins-lions rewind replay on NBC Sports Washington on Tuesday night.

That first sack on our first possession that took us out of FG range ... all on Morgan Moses. Got blown up at the snap off a bull rush then pushed the rusher from behind into Alex. Ive repeatedly seen Alex getting blamed "for taking a sack we said Haskins couldnt take" .. but it was all Moses.

Good call chico .. i think youre right. I bet most of it is the jet sweep so my brain dismisses that as just a run play and not pre snap motion leading to a pass play.

I want pre snap motion leading to passing plays i suppose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

quick video on what is the jet sweep. its from the eagles but its a good concise 2 min video

We do so much of this, one version or another. I think mcLaurin's big run against the lions was a jet sweep.

Do we ever do a PA off this? maybe the blocking being a bit different you dont want the QB to actually hang onto the ball?

I want some PA lol

Well, that's the point. To throw the ball down the field you need time, and receivers/TEs that can get separation. At this time Alex doesn't have either - so you'll continue to see check downs with the occasional down the field pass.

I wonder what the percentage of pre snap is the jet sweep motion. I see that a ton

I'll get that info in a few

I'll get that info in a few

How do you pull some of the stats that you do? I consider myself pretty versed with finding advanced stats but you OK, you find some gems.

Ive been looking for total number of air passing yards plays over 20 yards for the skins, for the league and by our QBs if possible (haskins vs Allen vs Smith). Im really curious on where we rank in passing air attempts over 20 yards. Im guessing bottom 3.

How do you pull some of the stats that you do? I consider myself pretty versed with finding advanced stats but you OK, you find some gems.

Ive been looking for total number of air passing yards plays over 20 yards for the skins, for the league and by our QBs if possible (haskins vs Allen vs Smith). Im really curious on where we rank in passing air attempts over 20 yards. Im guessing bottom 3.

Working for PFF bro it has some perks lol

And I'll get that stat too

So on passes of 20 plus yards downfield

Haskins was 1 of 10 for 39 yards
Allen was 3 of 6 for 100 yards
Smith is 6 of 12 for 221 yards

Deep % Haskins = 6.8% Allen 6.7% Alex Smith = 11.6%

Haskins is 4th lowest , Allen 5th. Only Brees, Mullens and Newton are lower.

Smith is ranked 19th

I wonder what the percentage of pre snap is the jet sweep motion. I see that a ton

Have to run the data on this I'll post it in a few

So on passes of 20 plus yards downfield

Haskins was 1 of 10 for 39 yards
Allen was 3 of 6 for 100 yards
Smith is 6 of 12 for 221 yards

Deep % Haskins = 6.8% Allen 6.7% Alex Smith = 11.6%

Haskins is 4th lowest , Allen 5th. Only Brees, Mullens and Newton are lower.

Smith is ranked 19th

Funny, I never hear anyone calling Drew Brees - Checkdown Charlie

Funny, I never hear anyone calling Drew Brees - Checkdown Charlie

Worth pointing out he's been most of the season without his supposed top 2 WR's, Thomas and Sanders. Kamara is carrying the load because he's had no names to launch it to. And now he's off at least 2 weeks with broken ribs. :rolleyes: