Panthers Postgame sadness

All I will say is everyone saying Heineke should have started or put in at the start of the third....he throws an int on his first pass, you’d be complaining Ron should have kept Dwayne in and you’d be saying he should have given him the chance to “get hot” in the second half like vs Seattle. It’s just too easy to second guess as a fan, because you don’t have to make a decision or deal with the ramifications, you can just sit on your couch and say Ron should have done something different. I’m pretty’s sure Ron and Scott know that Dwayne sucks, but without Alex any choice is a really bad choice. And remember, this was a situation they inherited. And finally...too much coffee this morning....I blame Jabril Peppers for hurting Kyle Allen because I know he leg whipped him on purpose. 🤬

Im not getting caught up with that. He was a top prospect in the 4th grade. His dad had NFL aspirations for him. Seems he came from a middle class type family in NJ then moved to Potomac Md to go to Bullis in the 9th grade.

He was on a different life trajectory than us. I worked baskin robbins at 15 and Popeyes/day laborer through out high school until college. We werent him. Few are.

He attained an incredible achievement, making the NFL. No one can take that from him.

He also apparently lost that achievement by being immature and entitled. basically the opposite of Chase Young. In ways I feel bad for him. He has no one to blame but himself but it is sad watching a young person experience these huge crushing emotions so early in life.

A lot was given to him unearned but that is the society we live in. Us 40-60 year old fat guys on our couches raise these 19 year old athletes above us on this pedestal like some greek gods .. only to discard them into the trash heap once they dont benefit our Sunday viewing pleasure anymore.

I feel for the young man. His feelings right now and the weight on his shoulders is vastly more than any of us could even imagine.

We created Dwayne Haskins in many ways. College to professional sports is a factory and these young guys are just products on an assembly line with a limited useful shelf life before they are discarded and replaced.

The only weight on his shoulders is from that fatass he was feeding dollars too. :)

Best red beans and rice anywhere and people fight for their sandwiches.

I love everything they have lol

Best red beans and rice anywhere and people fight for their sandwiches.

must be better outside of AZ . . . Popeyes is HORRIBLE here!!! YUCK!!!

Definitely agree, but there was a stripper incident, and I'd expect a coach to see if a player actually gives the team the best chance, or is going to be distracted on top of being a distraction.

I'm sorry, I just can't (won't) fault the coaching staff for starting Haskins, whose been here for two years, with this staff all year, played "decently" in spots including last week against Seattle, over a QB who was a backup in the XFL, whom they signed less than three weeks ago to be their quarantine QB (break in case of emergency guy).

Maybe he's the next Kurt Warner I don't know, but there really was no decision with regard to last night's game.

I don't hate DH. I don't know him well enough from what I have seen to come to that conclusion. I always feel I need to know someone before I can say I hate them, or have the weight of historical evidence steer me in that direction.

Having said that, I have absolutely no sympathy for him. He seems to me to have had his eye on the NFL as a cash cow to set him up for life with no consideration for his legacy. He opted to go to the NFL with only 1 year of college in the bank which smells of arrogance and greed; nobody forced him into that decision. His behaviour over the last 2 years hasn't been the worst (he hasn't beaten anyone up, robbed anyone etc.) but it smacks of an entitled attitude and a belief that he's earned his spot with what he's done to date (wrong!). If he's picked up by another team I'll be surprised but there's always someone who thinks that they can be a saviour. Swallow the cap loss and be rid of him. Move on and draft someone with all the character traits DH is missing, as a leader and potential franchise QB. I think RR knows that but he'd be cutting off his nose to spite his faced by releasing DH before the season is over. He'll be gone when it makes financial sense to do so.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-should-tank-their-week-17-game-vs-washington-football-team-0599970/

We lose that game and i rather we don't go to playoffs.


Ummmmmm, that's because we won't go with a loss. I think we pull this out with a great storyline.

I'm sorry, I just can't (won't) fault the coaching staff for starting Haskins, whose been here for two years, with this staff all year, played "decently" in spots including last week against Seattle, over a QB who was a backup in the XFL, whom they signed less than three weeks ago to be their quarantine QB (break in case of emergency guy).

Maybe he's the next Kurt Warner I don't know, but there really was no decision with regard to last night's game.The thing is even if he had played really well, there was still an argument to be made for making a statement about this whole culture change we keep hearing about.
And I hear the argument for giving your team the best chance vs establishing culture.

But there is a benefit/risk balance to be found in this decision IMO. And if there was any indication during the week that this was the kind of performance he could put out, then the balance shifts towards make a culture statement, because anyway he's not giving us that big of an upside right now.

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There's a video by a poster named "joeken24" on Extremeskins, and Heinicke wasn't exactly seeing "soft coverage" as some are saying.

https://es.redskins.com/topic/445995-next-day-thread-same-day-edition-wft-vs-panthers/page/4/

Just scroll down a bit and y'all will see the video.

Chase Young finished Sunday's game with a 93.7 overall grade which is the highest grade of his career.

5 total pressures, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 3 defensive stops. DROY.

Also Heineke had a 82 Grade.