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With that cap number? I’m not paying all that for a back up. He needs to be making south of 10 mil per
Even with him on the books we have plenty of room. Not sure that you really need to do anything with his #.
skinsfaninok 12-29-2020, 11:58 AM As of now the Dolphins have the 3rd pick (Texans pick) if there is a QB that the scouts think can start next year, then I pull the trigger. I would offer this year's first and a 3rd, plus either one of these DL's Matt I.,Payne or Settle. As much as I love these guys, you have to sacrifice one of them. Allen, Payne's and Settle contracts are coming up, we have proven we can play without Matt I. Also throw in Moreau.
It's gonna take 2021 & 2022 1's
SunnySide 12-29-2020, 11:59 AM 24M cap hit next year if we keep Alex
10.8M dead money if we cut him (we would "save" 13.2M)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-football-team/alex-smith-3337/
Cutting Haskins doesnt effect our cap position bc his contract was guaranteed anyway.
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Alex Smith looked like he was regressing in the Steelers game, then injury to start the SF game. Who knows, maybe a few weeks off and Alex is good to go for week 17 and beyond and plays well. "calf fatigue" probably wont ever go away im guessing, i dont think we could rely on him as QB1 to start 2021 and 24M cap hit is too much for QB2 since we have Kyle Allen as our QB2.
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Lots of options to find a QB1 though. IM happy.
SFREDSKIN 12-29-2020, 12:03 PM It's gonna take 2021 & 2022 1's
Any of those lineman equal a 1st. most likely Payne.
sdskinsfan2001 12-29-2020, 12:05 PM 24M cap hit next year if we keep Alex
10.8M dead money if we cut him (we would "save" 13.2M)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-football-team/alex-smith-3337/
Not paying him 24 million next year. Hopefully he retires or he will need to be cut.
SFREDSKIN 12-29-2020, 12:08 PM Not paying him 24 million next year. Hopefully he retires or he will need to be cut.
24 million is a bargain compared to what Dak, Ryan and Stafford would cost. I would trade up and draft a QB if the scouts identify one, keep Smith as a mentor and have him re-work his contract.
SunnySide 12-29-2020, 12:19 PM Since his injury in 2018 .... weve been waiting for the 2021 offseason to finally be able to cut him.
Alex Smith, nice guy, cute family, congratulations on making 71M for 17 or so starts ... but weve circled this 2021 date on our calendar 2 years ago.
2021 FA is the time to strike. Go all in. Teams in cap hell will have to make some serious cuts to players they otherwise wouldnt. Make 2021 to 2023 a potential window to be NFCE champs for 3 years.
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2021/
^^ look at each teams cap position come 2021. 10 teams are negative and that is with only like 40 or so players counting against the cap. They need to ADD players to get to 53.
Saints?? fucked. so fucked. they are negative 96M next year w 45 players on the books
Eagles? negative 64M w 41 players
Falcons? negative 24M w 31 players
Packers and Rodgers? negative 19M w 37 players
** assumes a 175M cap, nfl is adding an extra game next year
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lets go!
All depends on what the QB plan is. If it's Alex, Kyle Allen and a rookie, no need to worry about Smith's #. If you're brining in a high priced free agent, yeah, his # becomes a concern.
SkinsGuru 12-29-2020, 12:29 PM Nice breakdown of Heinecken's game yesterday
https://youtu.be/Z2zg8UCe5B8
RAMBLE much?!? jeesh, 47 minutes to review a player that came into the game with 6 minutes left . . . guy sure likes to Ramble . . . agree with him that that was the best QB play we've seen this year, but damn man, shorten it up a bit!!
sdskinsfan2001 12-29-2020, 12:38 PM 24 million is a bargain compared to what Dak, Ryan and Stafford would cost. I would trade up and draft a QB if the scouts identify one, keep Smith as a mentor and have him re-work his contract.
They are all a lot better than Alex now. I don't want Dak, no way we're paying that price tag. Don't really care for Ryan either.
I'd like Stafford if available for a reasonable trade. But to get him we'd definitely have to cut Alex.
At some point, the actual return on investment needs to be part of the calculation. I don't think Alex will give anywhere near 24 million of value next year.
If we can get a rookie we believe in that can actually start, then the money isn't an issue. But if we have to go any other route it will be.
Tricky situation. Because Alex is a great guy and should go out with respect.
In my ideal world he retires, and he gets hired as like a quality control assistant or something and stays with the team. He has future OC/HC written all over him. Would be a cool succession plan in say like 5 years, for him to take over for Rivera. Would give him time to learn the ropes of coaching, although I think he'd be great at it right out the shoot.
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