Bucs Postgame

They showed the close up replay at the angle to see it from ONE TIME. Coming right out of the commercial break. The ball hit the bag on his back/butt. For sure. I'm pretty sure that Dungy even started to comment on it, but Tirico cut him off to bring in the rules expert to talk about it being a touchback. They focused on the touchback vs. no touchback ruling, rather than the more important issue that the ball hit the Buc. I can't find the full replay anywhere, do you have it?

Yeah I have it on the game pass and I really don't think it did touch him.

Yeah I have it on the game pass and I really don't think it did touch him.

Look for the one close up shot showing the player's back after the commercial break. If you have the whole video, you will see it. The ball clearly hit his fanny pack or whatever it's called. I don't see it anywhere on the internet, which is kinda weird in and of itself. Usually you can find virtually any play. Game highlight video I found skipped the punt play altogether.

Look for the one close up shot showing the player's back after the commercial break. If you have the whole video, you will see it. The ball clearly hit his fanny pack or whatever it's called. I don't see it anywhere on the internet, which is kinda weird in and of itself. Usually you can find virtually any play. Game highlight video I found skipped the punt play altogether.

There you go (https://twitter.com/RobinBarde/status/1348672737640910849), edited all angles.

First angle is the best, pretty clear it didn't touch him IMO

This doesn't show the close up I'm talking about, but at 27 seconds in of 29 you can detect it if you look closely. The tumbling of the ball changes direction when it brushes the bag. The ball is tumbling forward, then tumbles backwards a little after the point of the ball hits the bag - unless it somehow changed its rotation in mid-air. Look at it. As the ball is rotating, the back point is coming end-over-end over the top of the ball, then suddenly reverses and the back point is rotating down - under the ball. Hard for me to find the right words to describe what I'm talking about. Hopefully, you can get my meaning and see the sudden change right when the front point of ball is at the bag. The close up they showed had it clear and unmistakable. All of us watching here saw it clearly. There was a much closer view directly at his back and it hit the bag. Sure would be nice to see seconds 30 thru 40 on this that they don't show here - that's probably where the close-up view was. Or, looking at it again, actually there is a skip in the tape right around second 22. They superimpose the NBC logo right there and flash forward a little bit instead of rolling what was being shown and said. Perhaps that is where the close up shot was. Pointless to continue without seeing that view unless you can make out the ball rotation change I'm talking about where the ball changes from an obvious forward bouncing roll to a virtually straight down vertical drop, with the back point coming down in a backward motion and hitting the ground. Having seen the close-up, the ball rotation change is easy for me to see. The ball was tumbling forward, the point hit the bag and it immediately tumbled back.
Hopefully, you can see it. Apke and the Redskins around the play knew it hit the Buc. Look at their reaction. I think the ref's initial react was the same, if you look at his body language (number 111). If you can't see it, I'm not going to convince you unless the close up view can be found. It is for sure that I'm not going to forget what I saw.

It touched him, we got hosed per the norm.

They play ended the game was jd catch and fumble out of bounds. He catches it clean or they make the proper ruling (catch,fumble out of bound and it then returns to the spot) then 3rd and 5 changes the landscape on the final drive.

Refs kinda fucked us and we couldn’t challenge and just was out of the 2 minute auto review zone..

So....got two guys on Youtube telling me Sims’ TD wasn’t a catch. I’ve asked them to explain to me how a clearly caught ball, with two hands on it, with two feet in bounds, that maybe moved a millimeter or two after he was three steps out of bounds wasn’t a catch. I’ll update you when they reply. 🤦*♂️🙄

It was close. I honestly thought they were going to call it incomplete.

So....got two guys on Youtube telling me Sims’ TD wasn’t a catch. I’ve asked them to explain to me how a clearly caught ball, with two hands on it, with two feet in bounds, that maybe moved a millimeter or two after he was three steps out of bounds wasn’t a catch. I’ll update you when they reply. 🤦*♂️🙄

Really annoying how we pick plays apart in replay these days especially on catches. He clearly never lost control and had both feet down. The ball can jostle around as long as the receiver doesn't lose control of it. That was an easy call IMO but during the game it did start to make me nervous with how long they reviewed it for.