Thrash lowers salary cap number

I think it would be tough to get fair value for him right now by himself, but if he is used in a multi player trade or some other scenerio it may be worth dealing him, I believe we will live without him, and if he could bring back a 1st rd pick I say do it.

Gardner and Trotter for a 2nd and 5th/6th rounder sounds fair to me. We need a team with needs a WR and MLB plus those picks available.

Consider this:- with Coles, Jacobs and McCants as your 1, 2 & 3 and Thrash in the wings, wouldn't you consider getting something for Gardner? Considering his propensity for dropping passes (something you can't have with a #2 WR IMHO), and the depth we now have, it seems to me a good move. I don't dislike him - this is just good business.

I still think Gardner is gone. Sure, he doesn't count much against the cap, but he may not fit what Gibbs wants out of a #2 WR. Plus on a team with still obvious holes, why have 5 WR that deserve to play (Coles, Gardner, McCants, Jacobs, Thrash). Except for Thrash, who's going to play special teams? Do you expect Jacobs to make a tackle?

He may end up staying if the Skins don't get a good enough offer. I think it boils down to draft day. A team may not get the WR they want in the 1st round and then the Skins throw Gardner out there to get a possible 2nd or 3rd/4th pick(s). I think it will happen...

I just heard Talyor Jacobs was already selected to the 2004 Pro-Bowl. His peers and coaches had a special early vote and voted him best practice player ever....
This sounds like the same premature talk last year about Ramsey being the next Bret Farve, ProBowl and Hall of Famer.
I hope for all our sakes and the Redskins, they both become all of this and more...
However they need to prove it on the regular season playing field before we induct them into the hall of fame. Good play on the practice field does not alway translate into great play in real games. Real games are much intense, physical and faster paced than practice. I will reserve my judgement on Taylor Jacobs until he proves on a consistent bases in real games. Placing Jacobs in front of Gardner, McCants and even Thrash in the depth chart is premature.

I just heard Talyor Jacobs was already selected to the 2004 Pro-Bowl. His peers and coaches had a special early vote and voted him best practice player ever....
This sounds like the same premature talk last year about Ramsey being the next Bret Farve, ProBowl and Hall of Famer.
I hope for all our sakes and the Redskins, they both become all of this and more...
However they need to prove it on the regular season playing field before we induct them into the hall of fame. Good play on the practice field does not alway translate into great play in real games. Real games are much intense, physical and faster paced than practice. I will reserve my judgement on Taylor Jacobs until he proves on a consistent bases in real games. Placing Jacobs in front of Gardner, McCants and even Thrash in the depth chart is premature.

I don't think that's fair to Taylor Jacobs. First off, he was hurt most of the year trying to adjust to the NFL. Second, you could make that same argument for any college player, look great in college but not good enough in the pros. Sure, Jacobs may not move up the depth charts, but if his production in college and so far in mini camp may show that he will be better than Gardner.

Jacobs could be better than Gardner. I think it has to be between Gardner and Jacobs. I dont think McCants ( and dont get me wrong, cause I love this guy), is a #2 type reciver. I just dont think he could excel being a every single down in the game type reciver. I think one of the reasons he can come in and make such big plays, is because he matches up very very well against the guys who will be on him. Does anyone agree?

I don't think that's fair to Taylor Jacobs. First off, he was hurt most of the year trying to adjust to the NFL. Second, you could make that same argument for any college player, look great in college but not good enough in the pros.....

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black!
Because all of you Gardner haters have been so fair to Gardner. Gardner had a good rookie year in the NFL. He proved himself in the NFL! Jacobs has proven nothing in the NFL.
I admit under Spurriers chuck and duck Bullshit college system, Gardner did not play well. However many NFL experts predicted Gardner would not do well in Spurier's system because it does not lend itself to big recievers like Gardner and the system was unproven in the NFL.
Didn't Stephen Davis have the same problem his last year here? He proved with the Panthers that he was not the problem, Spurrier's system was. Is it fair to judge Gardners play during the years we had a bad coach and offensive system? Everyone looked bad!

Personally I think Gardner should be traded before Trotter

Especially Spurrier. I wish I could have helped him pack. :stop:

I don't think Taylor Jacobs has a chance to become the #2 wide reciever. He's just another Gator. No Gators reciever has seen anything more than marginal success in the NFL. None of them dominate and I don't think he'll be any different. Even in the preseason when he was healthy he showed me nothing and it was a system he had just played in 2 years ago. I don't think we should cut him by any means, but I don't think he's got a shot at winning the number 2 spot for the Skins.