Giants postgame

Turner is doing a pretty good job, I though so last year too. Not sure why some fans are so down on him.

Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.

Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.

Bottom 3 offense last year with myriad of issues at QB.

Bottom 3 offense last year.

Everything seems to be short stuff and team D nowadays will give you that short stuff bc they know on a 15 play drive youll get a flag or a sack. Hard to go long drives and sustain it.

Heinike threw over 60% of his passes before the first down marker vs NYG

Seeing all this film breakdown stuff .. Turner's calling some really good big pass play concepts that just arent hitting yet.

This was bothering me right after the game. Now my view is let the play makers earn their money. I do hope the training wheels come off a bit more against Buffalo but against a defense like the Giants I am good with it,

4:20 mark .... hurts to see. Big play TD right in front of him, where his eyes were looking with no pressure ... Heinike takes the short gain. Thats been a pattern.

there is so much good film breakdown content out there.

Yep, I just saw the video you posted in another thread. I like that video better than Warner's as the guy covered some positives by Heinicke too.

The bottom line is Heinicke still have a long way to go.

I really wish the NFL could broadcasts games live in All-22. Without that or watching it after, even the smartest warpather is speculating/guessing a lot of what we're seeing, especially on pass plays.

Turner is doing a pretty good job, I though so last year too. Not sure why some fans are so down on him.

I'm down on him because he is ultimately responsible for the effectiveness of this offense. I get that he has had a number of different QBs under center over the last 18 games, but you don't get to be the OC of an offense that consistently sits at the bottom-half of the league in pretty much every statistical category, and get a pass.

From my perspective, it feels like he has his moments, but then for no apparent reason he also seems to get away from what works. I don't know if he is trying to be too creative, or if that is on the QBs' execution. The most recent example for me is the play call that ended up in an interception towards the end of the Giants game. That was D.U.M.B. Hand the ball to your running back who was averaging over 5 yards per carry.

I'm down on him because he is ultimately responsible for the effectiveness of this offense. I get that he has had a number of different QBs under center over the last 18 games, but you don't get to be the OC of an offense that consistently sits at the bottom-half of the league in pretty much every statistical category, and get a pass.

From my perspective, it feels like he has his moments, but then for no apparent reason he also seems to get away from what works. I don't know if he is trying to be too creative, or if that is on the QBs' execution. The most recent example for me is the play call that ended up in an interception towards the end of the Giants game. That was D.U.M.B. Hand the ball to your running back who was averaging over 5 yards per carry.

Hard to argue with Heinicke's production in this offense. It's not a bottom of the league offense anytime he's been in there.

True, Heinicke has done pretty well when in there, but that's only 2 full and 2 partial games out of the last 19. I don't know if he is doing well because of Scott Turner's game plan or in spite of it.

True, Heinicke has done pretty well when in there, but that's only 2 full and 2 partial games out of the last 19. I don't know if he is doing well because of Scott Turner's game plan or in spite of it.

According to the tape he should be doing even better.

Good thing with Fitz being out out for 8 weeks, Taylor truly gets a chance to sink or swim in a pretty talented roster (barring injury) without any background noise. This is his team and his chance.

That throw to Seals was big balls, going out swinging baller.

Thats all any athlete could ask for. A fair chance to prove themselves .. plus 5 mil as a consolation prize if it doesnt work out.