Washington trainer Ryan Vermillion on leave due to criminal investigation

Not defending DS, TRUST ME!

But Vermillion is RR's guy. DS isn't going sit in on every interview he hires the upper management its their job to fill their leaders.


I get that. I really do. And I don’t even want to put it on Ron but we just seem to be a magnet for this shit. You can always connect the dots. We keep Gruden and lose McVay. Gruden of course gets fired. We hire another guy who gets fired who brings this guy with him. It always comes back to Dan directly or indirectly. Am I playing a big game of connect the dots? Yes. Do i feel bad for doing it? No. Dan is a douche. But trust me i know as you have said and others that the guy came with Ron. He was there for years. Of course he was our director of rehab in 2002 so Dan was familiar with the man.

First off I'd look at Ron, it was his hire 110%. Perhaps this guy is just a bad apple that went rogue and even Ron had no clue. It's certainly possible, sometimes you never truly know someone.

First off I'd look at Ron, it was his hire 110%. Perhaps this guy is just a bad apple that went rogue and even Ron had no clue. It's certainly possible, sometimes you never truly know someone.

Ron has known him 10 years

Ron has known him 10 years

I know, doesn't mean he knows him inside and out. Everyone has skeletons.

I know, doesn't mean he knows him inside and out. Everyone has skeletons.

That's unacceptable at this level.
Potential first and second round draft picks have their past scrutinized.
Same should go for the team Dr and Trainers.

Whatever this is, probably isn't the first time.
It will be interesting to see if RR has a history of looking the other way on this stuff.

If Ron had any clue he should have to answer for that. But he doesn't seem like the type to look the other way when it comes to criminal activity though does he?

If Ron had any clue he should have to answer for that. But he doesn't seem like the type to look the other way when it comes to criminal activity though does he?


Not at all, but just like his lack of attention to detail on the field,……like jamf said at this level there cannot be any excuses.

How about we just put down the pitchforks a moment and wait for more details.

We all do realize most criminal activity is done in a sneaky manor.

How about we just put down the pitchforks a moment and wait for more details.

I'm with you. We have no idea what happened yet. As for the "Ron and/or Dan should've known", I'll hold judgement so far, you see those stories of a guy having a double life and/or raping people in his basement for 20 years and his wife and kids had no clue of who they were living with ...