punch it in
10-22-2021, 09:42 AM
Its called cherry picking to suit the narrative you want. This started when irish said he was a big underachiever in Carolina. Looking at his overall resume I'd argue that's simply not true.
I promise im not cherry picking and i have no narrative. I want anyone involved with this team to succeed. Period. I believe he was an under achiever too. 6 out of 9 seasons he was a loser as a HC. I believe he had a good enough team to do better than that.
We just disagree. I hope you are right. I hope RR rights the ship.
punch it in
10-22-2021, 09:44 AM
And consider that to get a better coach in future (assuming RR can't get above his average to date), .
Do you assume he is going to?
irish
10-22-2021, 09:48 AM
You can spin the numbers any way you want, bottom line is would anyone here really turn their nose up at going 12-4 or 15-1 and getting to a SB, even if its sandwiched between some losing seasons? Get outta here.
Of course nobody would turn their noses up at 12-4 and 15-1 and a SB appearance. But to me the real bottom line is he had one of the best QBs in the league and some very good teams but still only produced 3 winning seasons. If that's what he did with talent, he's got no chance here.
sdskinsfan2001
10-22-2021, 10:47 AM
You can spin the numbers any way you want, bottom line is would anyone here really turn their nose up at going 12-4 or 15-1 and getting to a SB, even if its sandwiched between some losing seasons? Get outta here.
We have to combine 2 good years, by our standards, to get to 15 wins.
BaltimoreSkins
10-22-2021, 11:01 AM
What are the Browns to do with Baker?
Chico23231
10-22-2021, 11:11 AM
What are the Browns to do with Baker?
Gonna be completely honest, I’d don’t know if you pay him a top salary. Id give him an honest valuation and a fair deal. If he wants a ton, I’d move him
irish
10-22-2021, 11:20 AM
Gonna be completely honest, I’d don’t know if you pay him a top salary. Id give him an honest valuation and a fair deal. If he wants a ton, I’d move him
Agree.
Baker is going to get a top dollar contract, are we really going to go through this pointless debate anytime a top 10-15 QB comes up for a deal lol
Especially since we're talking about the Browns, probably the only team that has cycled through more QBs than we have the last 20 years.
sdskinsfan2001
10-22-2021, 11:29 AM
Baker is going to get a top dollar contract, are we really going to go through this pointless debate anytime a top 10-15 QB comes up for a deal lol
Especially since we're talking about the Browns, probably the only team that has cycled through more QBs than we have the last 20 years.
If the Browns don't want him, I'll take him here.
Chico23231
10-22-2021, 11:32 AM
That browns system is a running system (kinda like how we should improve our team, alas) that last night proves you can plug in a RB and they can excel.
Baker is an decent guy, in all honesty I’d move on from ODB and Landry tho before I’d move on from Baker.