Eagles postgame

Some folks seem to have signed off of the team already -- understandable given the effort the last two weeks, I suppose. But if they can manage to show some life next week (a big if) and beat Dallas, 2-2 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, with a comeback win against the Jags (who are improved), a loss to Detroit (who is also significantly improved), and a thumping by a team that could one of the best in the NFC -- no shame in that. If, on the other hand as seems more likely given yesterday's debacle, they come out lifeless and limp, fall to a 21-0 deficient and then manage to scrape a few points in a 37-17 loss (which feels about right), they simply have to make some significant changes -- at least as to the leadership of what is shaping up to be D that looks to be last in the league. If they're blown out by Dallas and do nothing in response, the demand for change/exodus will be massive. Waiting for Robinson and Young to come back from injury simply won't cut it at this point (if that's their plan).

Some folks seem to have signed off of the team already -- understandable given the effort the last two weeks, I suppose. But if they can manage to show some life next week (a big if) and beat Dallas, 2-2 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, with a comeback win against the Jags (who are improved), a loss to Detroit (who is also significantly improved), and a thumping by a team that could one of the best in the NFC -- no shame in that. If, on the other hand as seems more likely given yesterday's debacle, they come out lifeless and limp, fall to a 21-0 deficient and then manage to scrape a few points in a 37-17 loss (which feels about right), they simply have to make some significant changes -- at least as to the leadership of what is shaping up to be D that looks to be last in the league. If they're blown out by Dallas and do nothing in response, the demand for change/exodus will be massive. Waiting for Robinson and Young to come back from injury simply won't cut it at this point (if that's their plan).

Too me it’s the inconsistency and how they are losing. The first half of not being prepared to compete is a major issue. It’s on both the defense and offense. To be honest, I thought the d was better yesterday. But Turner game plans the last 2 times out hasn’t been up to par. I’d like to see a lil more balance from the offense.

Too me it’s the inconsistency and how they are losing. The first half of not being prepared to compete is a major issue. It’s on both the defense and offense. To be honest, I thought the d was better yesterday. But Turner game plans the last 2 times out hasn’t been up to par. I’d like to see a lil more balance from the offense.

My memory (which isn't great) tells me that this team hasn't really played a full game of complementary football - all three phases clicking - since this staff took over...and way before that.

Some folks seem to have signed off of the team already -- understandable given the effort the last two weeks, I suppose. But if they can manage to show some life next week (a big if) and beat Dallas, 2-2 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, with a comeback win against the Jags (who are improved), a loss to Detroit (who is also significantly improved), and a thumping by a team that could one of the best in the NFC -- no shame in that. If, on the other hand as seems more likely given yesterday's debacle, they come out lifeless and limp, fall to a 21-0 deficient and then manage to scrape a few points in a 37-17 loss (which feels about right), they simply have to make some significant changes -- at least as to the leadership of what is shaping up to be D that looks to be last in the league. If they're blown out by Dallas and do nothing in response, the demand for change/exodus will be massive. Waiting for Robinson and Young to come back from injury simply won't cut it at this point (if that's their plan).

I get it, yesterday was depressing AF. But we've seen this story before where they rally from a slow start and and even put together a nice winning streak. The season is a marathon not a sprint.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/26/23372159/carson-wentz-is-manufacturing-his-own-sacks

I am ignoring the authors biased analysis but the data in and of itself is interesting. Going into yesterdays game Wentz was averaging 2.7 seconds in pocket third in league behind Trey Lance and Justin Fields. Yesterdays sacks:
1. 2.75 seconds
2. 3.15 seconds
3. 3.20
4. 3.76
5. 4.27
6. 2.93
7. 2.42
8. 3.70
9. 2.58

Some of that is obviously on Wentz. You can't hold the ball for that long, but Turner needs to readjust to get some quick pass plays in action. IMO the offense was most effective in the early part of the Jax game when they were using quick throws to Samuel and Gibson. They will probably need to get Terry in on the short routes more too. Samuel rarely extends beyond the sticks so his is limited in his ability to move the defense. Bring Terry in too and use it to open the downfield instead of having long developing plays.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/26/23372159/carson-wentz-is-manufacturing-his-own-sacks

I am ignoring the authors biased analysis but the data in and of itself is interesting. Going into yesterdays game Wentz was averaging 2.7 seconds in pocket third in league behind Trey Lance and Justin Fields. Yesterdays sacks:
1. 2.75 seconds
2. 3.15 seconds
3. 3.20
4. 3.76
5. 4.27
6. 2.93
7. 2.42
8. 3.70
9. 2.58

Some of that is obviously on Wentz. You can't hold the ball for that long, but Turner needs to readjust to get some quick pass plays in action. IMO the offense was most effective in the early part of the Jax game when they were using quick throws to Samuel and Gibson. They will probably need to get Terry in on the short routes more too. Samuel rarely extends beyond the sticks so his is limited in his ability to move the defense. Bring Terry in too and use it to open the downfield instead of having long developing plays.

I put the majority of the pass pro issues yesterday squarely on Turner and his game plan. Really been disappointed in him the last 2 weeks. He's hanging Wentz out to dry with all the deep drops, slow developing plays, and lack of a run game.

I put the majority of the pass pro issues yesterday squarely on Turner and his game plan. Really been disappointed in him the last 2 weeks. He's hanging Wentz out to dry with all the deep drops, slow developing plays, and lack of a run game.

Agree. Turner needs to revisit the first quarter game plan of the Jax game. (That win is now looking pretty solid after their last two performances)

I have no complaints with trading for Wentz. We knew we were getting a middle of the pack QB that can generate a lot of offense, but you can't have below average o-line, and TE play and expect an elite performance from him.

I prefer a power run game and downfield passing game. But our OLine simply isn't built for it. So we have to adjust to the short and midrange passing game, with maybe a couple deep shots per game, preferably with max protection.

This staff absolutely stinks at adjustments and scheming around what their players can do.

Robinson and Young will definitely help a lot. Another change would be to let St. Juste start instead of Jackson who has no business being there. Get rid of Wildgoose and bring back Jimmy Moreland, he knows the D and would be an instant improvement in the CB’s. Also resign Flowers if he’s willing to come back.

Erik Flowers must still be asking for a lot. Otherwise, it makes no sense that no team has picked him up yet.

He must've played it smart with his money and doesn't need to come back for "chump change".