Giantone
09-10-2025, 06:18 PM
Charlie Kirk dead after shooting at Utah Valley University event,
https://news.yahoo.com/us/live/charlie-kirk-shooting-live-updates-conservative-activist-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-school-says-190606372.html
Lived and died by his own rhetoric.
CRedskinsRule
09-11-2025, 06:58 AM
the bipolarization of our society exemplified:
my brother and i grew up fairly in sync politically. We both have an oldest son where we raised similarly. Both are mid 20's.
one cried almost inconsolably
one nearly shouted for joy
If this had been a liberal commentator, I am pretty sure the roles would have been reversed.
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Giantone
09-11-2025, 08:52 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maga-calls-vengeance-following-charlie-042127234.html
HuffPost
MAGA Calls For Vengeance Following Charlie Kirk’s Killing
In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s killing on Wednesday, right-wing commentators and activists pledged to avenge the act of violence and called for payback in explicit statements baselessly blaming “the left.”
“Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it?” Fox News host Jesse Watterssaid in a Wednesday segment.
Trump ally and right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer chimed in as well via a post on X, writing: “The best way President Trump can reinforce Charlie’s legacy is by cracking down on the Left with the full force of the government.”
Don’t recall them going bonkers over Melissa Hortman but that’s how they roll
GridIron26
09-11-2025, 11:04 AM
I had to double check to see if it's true when my friend posted this and turns out it is.. Charlie once said this: "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."
Yeah he said plenty of pretty despicable things. Certainly don’t condone what happened to him but with all the wackos in the world today if you keep blowing the dog whistle sooner or later you get bit.
Giantone
09-11-2025, 08:14 PM
I realize any murder is horrific but he was a political activist and often antagonized others on purpose he was not an elected Official. The "shock and aw " for his death is over the top IMO. In many locations it superseded any or all 9-11 events. IMPO that's phucked up.
Giantone
09-12-2025, 08:29 AM
A Point not to be Overlooked.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/we-must-not-posthumously-sanitize
Yesterday, while giving a campus speech, far-right activist and anti-LGBTQ+ influencer Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a gunman—another grim marker of how political violence has become a recurring feature of American life. Quickly, political figures and pundits rushed to denounce the killing, as they should. But some went further, valorizing and lionizing a man who built his career on contempt of people he viewed as lesser. Political violence is corrosive and we must not excuse it—killing Charlie Kirk was horrific. But we also must not sanitize the memory of a man who wished harm on those he disagreed with, and who spread a message of hate to anyone willing to listen or pay him to so. We can denounce the violent killing of Charlie Kirk without praising his abhorrent legacy.
Yesterday, Gavin Newsom tweeted that we should “continue the work” of Charlie Kirk and honor his memory. This morning, centrist columnist Ezra Klein published a column titled “Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics The Right Way.” Both paint a portrait of an open-minded Kirk, a man of dialogue and principle. But this is not his legacy. To call for “continuing his work” or to praise how he “practiced politics” is to erase what that work actually was: a relentless campaign of hate directed at LGBTQ+ people, racial and ethnic minorities, and anyone who refused to fall in line.
I first reported on Charlie Kirk years ago, at the beginning of the modern anti-LGBTQ+ panic—back when Riley Gaines was rising to far-right fame and her fifth-place swim finish was weaponized against transgender people. In one interview with Gaines on Real America’s Voice, Kirk railed against “the decline of American men” and blamed it for transgender equality. Then he added that people should have “just took care of” transgender people “the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and 60s.” Let’s be clear about what that meant: the 1950s and 60s were not kind to transgender people. The “standard treatments” were lobotomy, shock therapy, and involuntary institutionalization. Police commissioners openly described queer people as “a cancer in the community” and promoted “vigilant detecting.” Violence was the norm. So when someone calls for “continuing his work” or praises him for “practicing politics the right way,” this is the work they are honoring.
Charlie Kirk’s violent rhetoric toward transgender people in that clip was not an aberration—it was his brand. He preached hate and violence as a matter of routine. In another interview, he mocked Christians who followed scripture about loving their neighbor, scoffing that God also “calls for the stoning of gay people,” which he described as “God’s perfect law.” This was not a slip of the tongue. Hate was and continued to be central to his message. So when people invoke Kirk’s “work” and urge us to carry it forward, when they valorize him as some open-minded political figure, this is what they are valorizing: praising violence, contempt for human dignity, and the politics of fear dressed up as principle.
mredskins
09-16-2025, 07:49 AM
in this country you have the right to free speech, kirk exercised that right and sadly it cost him his life
i do not condone any of his beliefs but his assassination is a chip in our democracy; just because you don't like the message doesn't give you the right to silence it