Game Day #4: ATL bounce back or Mariotta Revenge

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calia
09-29-2025, 01:30 PM
Yeah, JD provides the magic we need to rally.. I still believe the coaches made the right choice to sit JD as this is a long season plus playoff games.

We all knew that it would be very challenging for Peters to resolve all positions within 2 years. The Lattimore trade probably is something that Peters wish he hadn't made.

Really hard to disagree re: the Lattimore trade. It really hasn't worked out, and even if you take away last season when he wasn't healthy, the fact of the matter is he is being targeted this season and folks are finding success.

Here are the (brutal) numbers through 4 games:

• 20 targets against
• 11 catches allowed
• 173 yds
• 9 first-downs allowed
• 6 penalties
• 3 15+ yard completions

Honestly, I would sit him and put Igbinoghene in, and perhaps move Sanristil out of the slot to the perimeter (where he fare reasonably well last season).

The safety spot has been a problem too, although Harris's injury is obviously a factor. To think that we thought the secondary might be a strength this season -- it has been the most under-performing personnel group on the team. Some of it seems to be coaching too -- they clearly aren't as comfortable in zone as they are in man-to-man, and it has shown in the last 3 games when receivers and TEs are not just open, but open by a mile. Every week, I find myself yelling at the tv "How the hell did that guy get so open?!" I am sure we all have. If our secondary just exhibited average play yesterday, that would have been a very different game.

A lot of football left, and having JD5 back will help, but they need to get the back end of that defense together quickly or it's going to be a pretty ugly season. Dallas and the Ravens are experiencing this (their secondaries have been dreadful), and they're a combined 2-5-1.

skinsfan69
09-29-2025, 01:41 PM
Goldman had a decent game yesterday. But Newton is a non factor. And Payne doesn’t consistently show that he’s a force.

The Chargers OL is crushed with injuries. Win that game and we are back where a lot of folks thought we’d be - 3-2 with losses expected with Green Bay and LAC. Every season you lose some you expect to win and hopefully steal a game or two as well. We need to win in LA and get on track.

And the team overall can’t expect to show up every other week. Felt flat from the get go yesterday. Miss the fire from Terry.

Hope the injuries stop. Apparently Jean-Baptiste tore a pec. I really hope that Preston Smith has something left.

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Is it safe to say that Newton is kind of a bust? He's done nothing since he's been here.

calia
09-29-2025, 01:50 PM
Is it safe to say that Newton is kind of a bust? He's done nothing since he's been here.

He's shown the occasional flash, but it is far too occasional. For a high second rounder, you need to get a more consistent contributor. He's still young -- he's only 23 -- and so there's time for him to develop, get stronger, etc. But folks were excited about him last year and this offseason, and we just haven't seen it translate to success on the field.

Patience isn't a bad thing -- folks were saying that McCaffrey wasn't offering anything and he's been terrific on special teams and is finally contributing to the passing game too. I don't think he's the next Santana Moss, but he could very well develop into a very solid contributor for us. We need these young guys to develop -- Owens, McGee, and Sinnott all come to mind (Sinnott by the way was not good yesterday -- a couple of drive-stalling penalties on him). We just haven't seen their raw athleticism translate to success on the field; I have to believe some of that is coaching, which is a concern. The feel-good and brotherly love stuff is awesome, but we need coaches to be technicians as well, and I am starting of have some concerns about the defensive staff.

GridIron26
09-29-2025, 03:07 PM
Really hard to disagree re: the Lattimore trade. It really hasn't worked out, and even if you take away last season when he wasn't healthy, the fact of the matter is he is being targeted this season and folks are finding success.

Here are the (brutal) numbers through 4 games:

• 20 targets against
• 11 catches allowed
• 173 yds
• 9 first-downs allowed
• 6 penalties
• 3 15+ yard completions

Honestly, I would sit him and put Igbinoghene in, and perhaps move Sanristil out of the slot to the perimeter (where he fare reasonably well last season).

The safety spot has been a problem too, although Harris's injury is obviously a factor. To think that we thought the secondary might be a strength this season -- it has been the most under-performing personnel group on the team. Some of it seems to be coaching too -- they clearly aren't as comfortable in zone as they are in man-to-man, and it has shown in the last 3 games when receivers and TEs are not just open, but open by a mile. Every week, I find myself yelling at the tv "How the hell did that guy get so open?!" I am sure we all have. If our secondary just exhibited average play yesterday, that would have been a very different game.

A lot of football left, and having JD5 back will help, but they need to get the back end of that defense together quickly or it's going to be a pretty ugly season. Dallas and the Ravens are experiencing this (their secondaries have been dreadful), and they're a combined 2-5-1.

Ugh those numbers are ugly.. Agreed about needing to make some changes sooner than later, we will see if the coaches agree eventually.

calia
09-29-2025, 03:42 PM
Through 4 games, our stats (a little skewed because they don't account for tonight's game) are as follows:

Offense: Rush 2nd, Pass 24th
Defense: Rush 16, Pass 28th

JD5 coming back will undoubtedly help with our passing offense, and if we can sustain drives better, that will help our D stay off the field and should help our D overall. But there's a glaring weakness in the back end of our defense, and it simply isn't sustainable for a team that aspires to the playoffs. And our pass rush isn't terrible -- at 10 sacks, we're tied for 5th (although because several teams have 11, 12, and 13 sacks, we're actually 11th on the list). The real culprits seem like the CBs and safeties -- and it sure looked like it watching the last 3 games.

Meks
09-29-2025, 04:11 PM
Not looking forward to next week at all the way the D is playing. Watched every chargers game this season and they are good on both sides of the ball. We may get steamrolled or we may beat them like the giants, barely.

We may finish at the bottom with the giants this year if we dont turn thos ship around and fast.

skinsfan69
09-29-2025, 05:06 PM
I'd like to see some of the younger LB's get in the game. Wagner reminds me of Fletcher when he was on his last legs. He just can't run anymore. Father time gets us all.

skinsfan69
09-29-2025, 05:08 PM
Not looking forward to next week at all the way the D is playing. Watched every chargers game this season and they are good on both sides of the ball. We may get steamrolled or we may beat them like the giants, barely.

We may finish at the bottom with the giants this year if we dont turn thos ship around and fast.

Chargers are pretty beat up. They just lost to a guy making his first NFL start. They're more than beatable.

sdskinsfan2001
09-29-2025, 05:20 PM
I'd like to see some of the younger LB's get in the game. Wagner reminds me of Fletcher when he was on his last legs. He just can't run anymore. Father time gets us all.

I want all the young guys more involved. Rotate Magee, Medrano, and Kaho in the game. Let's get some more speed on defense. It's getting about time to bench Lattimore too. Move Sainristil outside and put Igbinoghene in the slot.

Throw the damn ball to Sinnott. We have turned him into John Bates Lite, even though he was drafted in the 2nd round for his athleticism. Get Lane some touches somehow.

We are old and slow and refuse to use our younger/faster guys.

skinsfan69
09-29-2025, 06:17 PM
I want all the young guys more involved. Rotate Magee, Medrano, and Kaho in the game. Let's get some more speed on defense. It's getting about time to bench Lattimore too. Move Sainristil outside and put Igbinoghene in the slot.

Throw the damn ball to Sinnott. We have turned him into John Bates Lite, even though he was drafted in the 2nd round for his athleticism. Get Lane some touches somehow.

We are old and slow and refuse to use our younger/faster guys.

I just didn't understand bringing him back honestly. Did they not watch the last two games of the year? Lions and Eagles ran for like 500 yards and he couldn't make any plays. They should have had someone in waiting to take over this year who can at least run and it more athletic.

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