Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?

This was a horrible peice of news. This was the ONE guy that I thought did everything the right way, was clean and broke all sorts of barreiers......I hope he dosent see the hall.

This was a horrible peice of news. This was the ONE guy that I thought did everything the right way, was clean and broke all sorts of barreiers......I hope he dosent see the hall.
Do you think he knowingly took a banned substance?

Do you think he knowingly took a banned substance?

He's saying he didn't, but its hard to believe in this day and age, you just put some random things into your body.

Maybe he just popped a few too many Viagra pills, celebrating his 3,000th hit with his wife

Do you think he knowingly took a banned substance?

Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I think these athletes take us for idiots. I mean seriously, if he was taking anything legal, he would have known what it is. I absolutley think he, and Bonds who used that argument as well, both knowningly took what they took. Thats my take on it, but I just dont see how a professional athlete dosent "knowing" ingest somthing into their body.

I don't know. He made a pretty compelling argumenton SportsCenter about why he didn't know any better...

Sorry but it is ridiculous to mention a steroid drug user and Art Mont in the same sentence.

They can throw Palmero's numbers right in the trash if he used Steroids.

Art Mong BELONGS in the HOF. Not Palmero

My opinion above
mike

Major league baseball doesn't tell players what supplements have chemicals that could trigger a positive test for steroids. Supplements are not regulated by the government and the supplement manufacturers don't always tell you what a product's ingredients are.

Raffy tested positive several weeks ago. It went to arbitration and the arbitrator ruled that he didn't believe Raffy took steroids intentionally, but rather took a supplement not knowing that it would trip the steroid test. The arbitrator also ruled that it be prudent to have Raffy serve the suspension anyway.

I believe Raffy is a good man and I believe him when he says he didn't do it intentionally. The way MLB has set it up, it would be very easy to fail a drug test. I would wager that 99% of MLB players have no idea which supplement contains what. What really needs to happen is for the league and the players union to get together and devise a list of 'bad supplements'. It would protect guys like Raffy and at the same time, go after guys like Giambi.

I'll say this... why do you need supplements?

Referring to Malcolm's question, Palmeiro is in the over the hill gang as far as ball players go. Supplements, vitamins, etc are a part of an athlete's life, especially at his age, to help the body fight fatigue, help heal, keep the joints going.

I take supplements every day. It may be just a multi-vitamin, and some omega-3 fish oils, but we all take some sort of supplement at one time or another.

Palmeiro did something stupid. He took something he shouldn't have, from someone who isn't a certified person to get it from, and now he's paying the consequences.

Did he take steroids? Most likely not. He has everything to lose if he does. Did he take something that could have triggered a positive on the drug test? You betcha.

Purely by the numbers, he is a HOFer. However, this will certainly taint his changes.

Jayson Stark mentioned something interesting in an article on espn.com. Gaylord Perry is a Hall of Famer, and a well-reknown cheater. He used every trick in the book to produce more movement on the ball, yet he got his free pass into the Hall. A cheater is a cheater...