Thoughts on the game

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

It seems like our first defense totally dominates just like last year, but when the second defense takes the field, they just fall apart. I'm not sure if our depth is suspect, or if Williams is playing a plain defense to evaluate the players.

I worry about Ramsey, but the more I think about it, the less I worry.

First, he really started to connect for the first time with his receivers.. and many connections were the long ball. He had something like 170 yards passing in the first half. Hell, we didn't get that in whole games last year.

Second, his numbers could have been better, but I saw his receiver drop a sure first down too. Another one, Moss was running free down the sidelines, Ramsey made a great throw but Moss lost the ball in the lights. Cooley was obviously taken out of the mix for the game plan. To me that means they really have plans for him and don't want to tip thier hat.

Third, Pat had some poor decisions. I think that good coaching can prevent about half of those. Now that Gibbs knows where Ramsey starts to force things, he can call plays that fit Ramseys comfort level in those situations. I had no real problem with the int overthrow to Moss. When you go bombs away there will be int's. It was the one in the endzone that was the problem. If Cooley was out there, I think he may have felt better about checking down.

It's preseason. All I want is for us to do a little better each week. Next week will be a huge test.

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Second, his numbers could have been better, but I saw his receiver drop a sure first down too. Another one, Moss was running free down the sidelines, Ramsey made a great throw but Moss lost the ball in the lights. Cooley was obviously taken out of the mix for the game plan. To me that means they really have plans for him and don't want to tip thier hat.
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THATS RIGHT! If Moss catches that-at worse he gets 25 yards, at best he makes 2 moves and is gone, really there was only one man to beat if makes that catch - Lets not forget, Pat audibled to that play, so he made the audible, and a great throw.

I don't know that putting Ramsey in as the second stringer is going to give him confidence. It may pad his stats, but I can't imagine he'd feel too relaxed about Brunell starting.

Yes, but he, along with just about everyone else still acknowledge that this is just preseason. Every coach wants a chance to evaluate as many players as they can against starters on opposing teams. Your backup quarterback should face a first team starting defense at least once during the exhibition games.

If this fact makes Ramsey nervous, and he takes a Brunell starting nod next week as an ominous sign, then that's not good. Competition should make a pro athelete in the NFL flourish, not cower.

If this fact makes Ramsey nervous, and he takes a Brunell starting nod next week as an ominous sign, then that's not good. Competition should make a pro athelete in the NFL flourish, not cower.

Just listened to the Gibbs press conference. Don't think we will see Brunell starting anytime soon. Gibbs thinks the way to fix Ramsey is to make sure he gets more reps.

I agree with that statement.

Give a shout out to my boys on the D. The first team unit played well despite all the injuries.
P. Prioleau had a great game and looked good. He is a very solid tackler. Great and inexpensive pick up. Hopefully Snyder learned from Williams on this pick up.

C. Clemons continues to look good in his new position

The 1st team offensive line continues to show signs of much improved play from last year, they played really well last night. They opened up some running lanes and protected Ramsey; this this time you cannot blame them for Ramseys inconsistant play.
R. Cartwright and Broughton had very impressive game. Rock averaged 7.5 yards a carry! Broughton averaged 5 tough yards per carry. Broughton is a keeper.
Ramsey was booed on the first three drives for continued poor play from last week. But he snapped out of it and had a handful of great throws mixed in with his bad ones. I hate to say it but Ramsey is still inconsistant. On one of his interceptions, he never took his eyes off the receiver; he telegraphed it. Not the sign of a third year NFL QB.
Although some of his completions were awesome, threaded the needle on a couple of them. The lone TD pass Ramsey has in in 2005 came off a great interception from Carlos Rogers. I like Carlos!
So you have to say Ramsey has yet to drive the team down the field for a TD in 2005: in something like 15 drives. My boy Sonny J. was keeping track last night.

Ramsey is trash......I keep making excuses for him and I'm done with that. He looked horrible last night. We are going to live and die with Ramsey this year and we might limp our way to 7 wins if we're lucky. I keep saying that Ramsey made a few nice plays last night, trying to defend him...but that is what his job is, to hit the open receiver and he can't do it more than 1/2 the time unless its a dump off.

Enough with that.....does anyone feel that we haven't worked the middle of the field at all in this preseason. I feel like that is coming at some point in time. I feel like we are attacking the side and corners of the field. Anyone else see that??

Matty, this is Palmer's second year as a starter after watching Kitna in his rookie season. Palmer looked shaky in the first few series against a still depleted Redskin starting defense, but warmed up a bit as the first half continued on. If you're trying to correlate his performance with Ramsey's, you needn't bother. Palmer, while younger with not as much experience as Ramsey, isn't projecting himself as such the way Ramsey still is. Ramsey is older by 10 months. Palmer had a zero passer rating at the end of the 1st quarter. We had already pulled our D-line and linebackers at the end of the quarter and he moved the ball down the field, mostly on his ability to run becasue nothing was there. He looked shaky even against our 3rd stringers. If I were the bengals I would be worried as that was a pitiful performance.

As far as Ramsey, I personally thought he played fine. The Int. in the end zone was a ball that got a lot of air under it , similar to the TD to Thrash. I don't like that throw and he has to learn to zip it versus loft it unless it is the one on one fade. But that would be a better pass for Randy Moss and we don't have him. The other Int. looked like a miscommunication. We can not judge what we do not know. I also thought there was a ball in the 2nd series that Moss failed to make an attempt at. It was an excellent pass but he seemed to give up on the play. He did make a couple of great moves though.

The guy that impressed me the most was Antonio Brown. He was awsome. He seems to have a knack for returning the ball, expect him to break a few. But he juked Rasheed Bauman out of his jock strap for a catch. Sold the post and turned poor Bauman around and took the out pattern. GREAT MOVE!!!

On defense seems like Aki Jones is going to make the ball club.

I'm concerned about Patrick Ramsey...we can't have him playing Jekyl and Hyde. I thought his performance was better with the long pass completions, but his bonehead INTs are killing this team's momentum. I do agree that the only way Patrick can get through this is to play through it. But, it's his fourth year, it's time for him to start eliminating mistakes such as what he made last night.

I know the boo birds will still doubt Brunell because he was playing against the second and third string, but keep in mind, he was playing behind a second and third string OL and second and third string receivers and backs. I'm impressed with Brunell so far.

Overall, I have concerns with Patrick Ramsey and our back up defense. I'm afraid we're not going to have good depth on our defense this year, but as long as our first stringers don't get hurt, we should dominate. Carlos Rogers is going to have to get into condition fast..he was tired after the first quarter last night!!

Overall, I see nothing wrong with the offensive system. Gibbs still isn't showing us everything about the offense, but we could have very easily put up more than 17 points last night. Like Gibbs said, "we are our own worst enemy."

We have the talent and ability to have a solid team, some players just need to step up and perform.

Ramsey is trash......I keep making excuses for him and I'm done with that. He looked horrible last night. We are going to live and die with Ramsey this year and we might limp our way to 7 wins if we're lucky. I keep saying that Ramsey made a few nice plays last night, trying to defend him...but that is what his job is, to hit the open receiver and he can't do it more than 1/2 the time unless its a dump off.

Enough with that.....does anyone feel that we haven't worked the middle of the field at all in this preseason. I feel like that is coming at some point in time. I feel like we are attacking the side and corners of the field. Anyone else see that??

AMEN BROTHER!

The Redskins just got rid of a WR who held on to the ball 50 percent of the time. Where is he now? You're absolutely right, Ramsey's job is to hit the open receiver but somewhere in between his brain and motor skills lies a dilemma. We want him to do good soooooo bad that we accept his mediocre to horrific performances for the last two games. Who cares if he threw some nice passes if he turned right around and threw 2 INTS? I'm sick of him and the apologist who continue to allow their wisdom to be clouded with the obvious. Which is he will not be the starter of this team, come September if he turns the ball over another time in preseason. PERIOD!