The Gibbs Hypocrisy!

Actually, last year, the playoffs were still very much into our plans up until Dallas beat us in the last 30 seconds of the second meeting. If we had beaten the Cowboys, we would have been in the playoffs. I'm also considering the fact that we beat Minnesota last year. So, I wouldn't necessarily say the playoffs were out of the question in Ramsey was inserted into the lineup.

what did Brunell show outside of Jacksonville and the preseasons? anybody??

The one thing the Ramsey loyal fans fail to see is it not about Brunell. It is about Ramsey and his inability to play well consistantly. Ramsey was benched for poor play period. If we had another 2nd stringer it would be them starting right now and not Brunell.

Actually, last year, the playoffs were still very much into our plans up until Dallas beat us in the last 30 seconds of the second meeting. If we had beaten the Cowboys, we would have been in the playoffs. I'm also considering the fact that we beat Minnesota last year. So, I wouldn't necessarily say the playoffs were out of the question in Ramsey was inserted into the lineup.

We were 3-6 and played like shit. Do you really honestly think we were going to make it into the playoffs? Regardless of the math of the crappy NFC east. What, one of the playoff teams in the NFC was the first .500 team to ever make it to the playoffs...in NFL history!

The one thing the Ramsey loyal fans fail to see is it not about Brunell. It is about Ramsey and his inability to play well consistantly. Ramsey was benched for poor play period. If we had another 2nd stringer it would be them starting right now and not Brunell.

Yeah, I think that is the real reason. If anything, the only other QB Gibbs has is Brunell. He obviously (and I don't blame him) doesn't wanna use Campbell too early.

Here's what I think about all this hypocrisy talk:

Gibbs named PR the starter in the offseason so he'd gain confidence, work hard all offseason, and not be looking over his shoulder. How did he respond? With happy feet, bad reads, and turnovers. He also had trouble hitting the deep ball--I mean hitting WRs in stride down the field. His WRs made some nice plays coming back to the ball and with RAC, mostly. He held the ball too long and took sacks at bad times. And he NEVER LOOKED COMFORTABLE. I was a PR supporter, but I saw that and hoped it would change. It certainly hadn't in quarter #1 AT HOME AGAINST THE WEAK ASS BEARS. When was it going to happen, in Dallas? Denver? When?

Gibbs gave the guy six months as the starter--but he didn't look like it in practice, in scrimmages, in preseason games, and last sunday. Meanwhile, Brunnell looked like a different guy--we all saw that as well. THis isn't the first time a "bench Ramsey, Play Brunnell" discussion has gone on here, folks. So Gibbs re-evaluated the situation after the game, took everything into account, and made the switch. Is that hypocrisy?

No one in the NFL is guaranteed anything. Sure, if you're Peyton Manning or Donovan or someone, you'll get the benefit of the doubt. But PR has not earned that respect. He's been given lots of chances, IMO, and never stepped up. Y'all want to say that's Gibbs fault--but PR played his role in this too. Go back and look at his posture in the pocket on Sunday. Was he confortable? And check out his long incomplete pass to Cooley: One, it was overthrown; Two, Sanatana Moss had blown by single coverage on the otherside, and Ramsey NEVER SAW HIM! And, finally, check out the INT. What the F*** happens on that play? Is that Gibbs being a hypocrite? Or is that PR throwing away his chance to start?

One last point: Are you all really mad that Gibbs pulled Ramsey, and allegendly went back on his word, or are you just mad because you think Brunnell sucks? My guess is that you are mad becuase you HATE Brunnell after last year. I have sympathy with that, but thats a completely different point. It might make Gibbs dumb to play Brunnell, but it doesn't make him a hypocrite.

Gibbs said NO TURNOVERS. What did PR do after that was said? That was fair warning.

its not about Brunell? its about anybody who's next because those 20 minutes were so horrid? and when Brunell gets his first turnover, does it go to Campbell? Ramsey? probably not huh. Gibbs has his favorites, there's no denying it.

I don't want to get into any name calling or anything, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so here's mine. I was at the game & just went back & watched the broadcast that I tivo'd to make sure I saw it all. More than anything, I feel bad for Patrick Ramsey. I feel like Gibbs is giving him a raw deal, and ultimately I feel like he is making a huge mistake. Trust me, if I'm wrong & Brunell turns out to be the right choice I will absolutely feel like a Munson. However, P.R. in my opinion looked pretty good & getting better before Briggs made an absolutely unmistakable illegal-hit. Brunell didn't look like anything special to me. I'm not looking at this in any other way than as a man, and that is why I feel Gibbs is in the wrong. Tear me apart if you want, thats just my two-cents. In the end we're all just huge fans of a team I so desperately want to see back in the legendary status it deserves.

hail.

We were 3-6 and played like shit. Do you really honestly think we were going to make it into the playoffs? Regardless of the math of the crappy NFC east. What, one of the playoff teams in the NFC was the first .500 team to ever make it to the playoffs...in NFL history!

Yes - were in the playoffs if had hung on to beat the Cowboys and knowing we had beat the Vikings the following week. That was fact. That was all we had to do to make the playoffs.

Right about now I am ready to give the rookie Campbell a whack at it...what the hell, why not? Giibbs thinks Ramsey can't cut the cake anymore and Brunell can? Who knows, maybe "Scott Brunell" (not sure how many of you picked that up on the commentators calling him by the wrong name) we will all be eating a little crow and "Scott" (roflmao) will actually pick up and play like a professional. Lets just say I am not holding my breath.

Skins 4 life

brunnel is better on his feet and won't make stupid mistakes like Ramsey. This next game is by far the most important game for us and we better play it as such.