Dumb & Dumber

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offiss
04-14-2004, 02:29 PM
These number's are most telling, it seem's the dumber you are the better you play.

SKINSnCANES
04-14-2004, 03:10 PM
Anyone have a link that explains this test, ive never read much about it. Ive seen a lot of those players play and their on the field skills are more than impressive. Ive talked to Taylor a few times before class and he didnt seem like the dumbest guy, he seemed like a football player, but hey, thats what he is. If all he can do is read a playbook and a QBs eyes then im happy.

offiss
04-14-2004, 07:24 PM
Anyone have a link that explains this test, ive never read much about it. Ive seen a lot of those players play and their on the field skills are more than impressive. Ive talked to Taylor a few times before class and he didnt seem like the dumbest guy, he seemed like a football player, but hey, thats what he is. If all he can do is read a playbook and a QBs eyes then im happy.

That test can't gauge a player's instict's, has anyone ever heard an interview with lester haye's the former raider CB? you could barely understand the guy, yet he was a great CB, there are guy's no matter how dumb they may be with the book's just have an instinct for the game, perhap's more so than the smartest guy's in the NFL.

JoeRedskin
04-15-2004, 09:00 AM
Anyone have a link that explains this test, ive never read much about it. Ive seen a lot of those players play and their on the field skills are more than impressive. Ive talked to Taylor a few times before class and he didnt seem like the dumbest guy, he seemed like a football player, but hey, thats what he is. If all he can do is read a playbook and a QBs eyes then im happy.


There may be something in ESPN archives. I remember they had an article on it last year.

As I remember, the test is like an SAT for football players. Lots of random (i.e. math, english, history, etc.) questions aimed at testing your ability to understand concepts quickly. I think it's timed and very fast, i.e. you don't have a lot of time to answer think about the questions.

I could be wrong, but I think that's what the ESPN article said about it.

BleedBurgundy
04-15-2004, 10:25 AM
That's just it! I'm worried that Sean Taylor may not be able to "read" the offense if he can't even read comic books without spelling out things phonetically...

OK, not really - but I think its funny that Taylor needs a calculator to count to five and thinks algebra is a fungus that grows on girls underwear....

Wait, are you implying that players from the University of Miami don't uphold the highest academic standards? I mean if he made it through 3 years of school, then he must be fairly bright, right?

JoeRedskin
04-15-2004, 11:47 AM
Anyone have a link that explains this test, ive never read much about it. Ive seen a lot of those players play and their on the field skills are more than impressive. Ive talked to Taylor a few times before class and he didnt seem like the dumbest guy, he seemed like a football player, but hey, thats what he is. If all he can do is read a playbook and a QBs eyes then im happy.


Found the article I was talking about and a practice test with 15 Wonderlic questions:

The Article:
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html

The Test:
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html

I took the test and got 13 of 15 in the time allotted (Missed the math questions on number of pages and the return on investment).

A perfect score on the test is a 51, only one player ever got it. Also, according to the article, Taylor's score of ten makes him "literate". With apologies to Skins&Canes, it's good to know Taylor got some quality education down there at Miami ("You must be able to read AND write your own name to enter this school"). Figure if Taylor got a ten, that's like getting 3 questions right on the practice test (getting 20% of the answers correct). Anyone here want to admit to scoring less than a 5?

Hail to the Redskins
04-15-2004, 11:56 AM
Two words...

DEXTER MANLEY.... anyone doubt he got a -7 on his test? But damn he could rush a QB....

SKINSnCANES
04-15-2004, 01:37 PM
My roomate always tells me stories about how Parcells used to try and Coach LT. Then one day he didnt listen and went and sacked the QB. So from then on Coach just said, 'LT get the QB', and he just said 'OK Coach'

As a side note, as im sure most of you dont know, Miami is a small private school in Coral Gables(one of the most expensive cities in the US). Most peopel think its a public school like FSU with thousands and thousands of people. When I entered we had around 5000 undergrads. The academic side is great, but im not going to lie and say that the football players dont receive 'special' treatment. They kinda do their own thing seperate from the school.. Not all of them, Taylor probably yes. Ive had classes and done projects with a bunch of them that were very bright. Those guys usually arent the first round draft choice though, oh well.

JoeRedskin
04-15-2004, 02:12 PM
Miami is a small private school in Coral Gables(one of the most expensive cities in the US). Most peopel think its a public school like FSU with thousands and thousands of people. When I entered we had around 5000 undergrads. The academic side is great, but im not going to lie and say that the football players dont receive 'special' treatment. They kinda do their own thing seperate from the school.. Not all of them, Taylor probably yes. Ive had classes and done projects with a bunch of them that were very bright. Those guys usually arent the first round draft choice though, oh well.

Fair enough, but a 10??? Special treatment is one thing, special ed is another. How did this guy find his way to class?? Oh wait, that would be the "special treatment" thing again....

Just ribbing you S&C. I went to Univ. Maryland back when Bobby Ross was coach and got "special treatment" for the football players (let's not even talk about Lefty Driesell and the B-Ball players). I had some classes with them, dumb as posts - which is kinda insulting to posts actually. Yet, amazingly they aced every exam. lol

Skins fan 44
04-15-2004, 02:27 PM
I went to a junior college and I could always tell if a class was going to be easy by looking to see if there were many basketball players in the room.

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