game & refs

cant see how you diagree with the 2 pt call...his elbow was down b4 the goal therefore how could the ball be across the goal...come on man you need glasses just as they do!!

I don't think this game came down to poor calls by the refs. We got a break on the TD run by Betts and the fumble by Carnell Williams.

The Alstott call seemed like a reasonable one to me. Can anyone say with a straight face and 100% certainty that Alstott didn't cross the goal line? I can't. It was a questionable call, but one that shouldn't have been overturned on review (where there must be indisputable evidence to reverse the call).

its pretty hard to call that a TD in the first place, it was just a straight up guess by the ref

At regular speed I was positive he was in. I never thought there was a doubt, but during the replay you can see his elbow hit the ground and it doesn't hit any paint. That was the hand he had the ball in. He was facing backwards, he wasn't it.

hell yeah i can say it with a straight face...he didnt cross the line his ELBOW WAS DOWN b4 the goal and i'll say it again the elbow down how can the ball be across!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our three turnovers in the first half is probably the difference more than anything else. Until we learn to not turn the ball over, we're going to suffer more frustration like today. I think I am dejected from this game than our game against the Giants.

hell yeah i can say it with a straight face...he didnt cross the line his ELBOW WAS DOWN b4 the goal and i'll say it again the elbow down how can the ball be across!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats exactly right.

reality is we are not that good.Every week we point the finger at the refs.The way they were called they were right by the rules.No evidence to overturn the calls.

The problem is, since the officials on the field ruled that he was in, then he could have been stopped on the five, driven back to the other goal line, and the refs still would have called him in. Sounds to me since the boothe couldn't see the placement of the ball on the replay, and probably wasn't even looking at his elbow.

Arrington should have stopped Alstot at the one yard line, he was in perfect position. But for some reason He left his feet, jumped over the pile ending up in the backfield. What was he thinking? Walt Harris and Prealou cost us this game, they were out of position for most of the afternoon. Did anyone notice the complete lack of a pass rush? Even when we blitzed our linebackers we couldnt get pressure. Simms had time to sit back and find his wide open recievers with our lack of a pass rush and the horrible play of the secondary.

a lot of things cost us this game. First off, one thing i noticed, when we blitzed, it seemed like they were completing big passes all day. We cannot keep blitzing and leaving our corners on an island, because i saw not only Walt Harris but Carlos Rogers giving up the deep ball. Our defense gave up too many big plays. I don't care about the refs, the game shouldn't have been close enough for the refs to make a huge difference anyways. We have a lot of glaring weaknesses as it is.

1. We can't defend the big plays
2. We can't get a good pass rush
3. We give up a lot of turnovers on offense

I really feel like considering how many turnovers we had, the game shouldn't have been that close. People have figured our defense out. Chris Simms had a field day with our secondary, and i get the feeling even with Sean Taylor in there we still would've given up big plays. We just don't have a good enough #2 corner to run with opposing teams #2 receivers. Maybe Walt Harris doesn't have enough speed, I don't know. One thing our offense showed me was that even though we turned the ball over, we still came back and put points on the board. That's why i'm upset with our defense. As for the third component, i think special teams is the one area that we don't have a problem at right now. That was a beautiful kick return for a td by Ladell.