Patten Doubtful vs Raiders

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Beemnseven
11-17-2005, 07:42 AM
I agree,but hopefully Jacobs will prove us both wrong and have a breakout game,it would be nice for a change if one of our players has a career game against somebody instead of the other way around

Yeah, I've been waiting for that "breakout game" from Jacobs for awhile now . . .

jermus22
11-17-2005, 09:23 AM
Yeah, if Jacobs doesn't do something special soon, he'll probably be gone next year.

scowan
11-17-2005, 09:41 AM
Jacobs, buddy, now is your time. Do it now, or good luck in the arena league next year!

MTK
11-17-2005, 09:51 AM
I wouldn't get your hopes up TJ fans, sounds like Thrash will be the #2.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-17-2005, 09:53 AM
shut down by who? if you don't know, the raider's D is worse than awful and possibly their best defensive player (woodson) is out with a broken leg... I know fabian washington ran a 4.27, but he's not exactly a polished veteran (being a rookie and not highly thought of in the draft etc).

So let me call it now. Fabian Washington has an INT and Warren Sapp has a couple sacks. Rookies/washed up vets having career games. Those will be the two.

amorentz
11-17-2005, 09:55 AM
I noticed sometimes though that Brunell checks off the first receiver, usually Moss, then he looks to Patten and checks him off then goes to someone like Sellers or Cooley. But what stands out for me is that the third option isn't necessarily any more open than Patten.

So it has me wondering if Brunell doesn't believe that Patten can make the play in coverage. He probably does, but still...

As for Dillon's impact, didn't Patten have his best years when the knock on the Pats was that they had no running game? Well actually, I guess they had Antowain Smith back around 2001 right?

I cant imagine that Brunell WOULD have a lot of faith that Patten can make the play in coverage. Most of what Ive seenis Patten dropping the ball and not making the tough catches. For example the Int from the Bucs game...sure he got hit, but the ball bounced off his hands before he was touched. If you get hit in the hands, you gotta make the catch.

Also, to those of you who keep saying Patten is a "posession receiver"? Thats crazy talk...he's tiny and fast, not big and strong. A posession WR is someone who can use their big ass body to make catches in the red zone or in short yardage for first downs. At 5'10" and 190lbs hes smaller than lots of corners. Thats no posession receiver.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-17-2005, 10:01 AM
Is it just me or was everyone else semi-excited to see Patten not playing this weekend? It gives the chance to see Jacobs step up and make some plays. Maybe put Patten at #3 where he would be more effective.

MTK
11-17-2005, 10:01 AM
You don't necessarily have to be big to be a possession receiver, a possession WR to me is someone who has great hands and runs the short to intermediate routes well, aka a chain mover.

#56fanatic
11-17-2005, 10:03 AM
I do believe that the Patriots were throwing the ball alot more than we are. Brady was attempting 40+ passes a game. They used those short 3 or 4 yard routes as there run game alot of times. Plus, the Redskins have been throwing to the H-back and TE more than the #2 or #3 receivers. I think, if we continue this trend and teams are focused more on Cooley, Sellers, Royal, Portis and Betts, that it will open things up for Patten and Trash,or Jacobs. Cooley is generally wide open on most of his receptions, as well as Sellers and the backs coming out of the back field. Fact remains, Patten has to do a better job at getting open when his play is called. I think the skins were trying to get him more involved in Tampa, put did not do a great job when his number was called. The first pass to him, he used bad technique on catching. He should have come back for the ball instead of waiting for the ball to come to him. And the ball down the sideline he stopped and lost the battle for the ball. Doesn't seem like he is all there mentally. I think the frustration of not being a threat in the offense may be getting to him. I hope Jacobs steps in and play great. the coaches were so high on him in the offseason because of how hard he worked at Redskin Park when everyone else was on vacation.

scowan
11-17-2005, 10:04 AM
Santana Moss plays with an extreme amount of confidence to me, like he knows he is the fastest, best guy on the field. Patten does not always seem so sure of himself. How do I know?.....It's just body language to me. Bottom line is I am not worried about the Offense much this week with Patten out, so we lose 3-4 balls that get thrown his way. It just means that Betts or Thrash or Sellers get a few more.. Because you know that Moss and Cooley will get 7-10 looks.

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