Campbell, now!

We are going no where with Brunell.... period i wanna see what ramsey can do..he played great at the end of last year.... brunells luck is over that arm is dead again plain and simple

And Ramsey's brain dead. Anyway, why would any intelligent coach put a sure goner in to replace someone with 13 TDs and 5 INTs is beyond comprehension.

And Ramsey's brain dead. Anyway, why would any intelligent coach put a sure goner in to replace someone with 13 TDs and 5 INTs is beyond comprehension.

Brunell is a far better quarterback right now. He should and will stay the starter for now. Brunell gives us the best chance of winning for now.

I think the only question is, when do start playing for the future? The guy is 35.

And Ramsey's brain dead. Anyway, why would any intelligent coach put a sure goner in to replace someone with 13 TDs and 5 INTs is beyond comprehension.
brain dead huh in the only game he played he looked very good in the 1st half before he was hurt and played well last year u may like brunell but saying ramsey is brain dead isnt really right....but anyway he may have all those td's but he also leads the NFL in fumbles lost and he looked like shit sunday... can you comprehend that!!!

And Ramsey's brain dead. Anyway, why would any intelligent coach put a sure goner in to replace someone with 13 TDs and 5 INTs is beyond comprehension.

SUNRA, I'm not meaning to pick on you, but why do you loathe Ramsey so much and defend Brunell at every turn? When Ramsey was getting sacked or fumbling last year, you said it was all on Ramsey. Now, you seem to be defending Brunell's fumblitis by attacking the O-line. I know you really like Brunell, but I'm sensing something else going on there.

......but I'm sensing something else going on there.

Did Matty give you permission to use the 'Force'?

Sure why not....then we can find out if he's dumb as some of these fans on this site say he is....


Couldn't agree more, he's proven to outplay Brunell under the same conditions last year, and he had more passing yards in 1 quarter against the Bears than Brunell had all game.

This misconception that Ramsey wouldn't have progressed and become better with this offense just like Brunell has isn't fair to Ramsey, he hasen't been given the same opportunities as Brunell, to many here believe just because Ramsey is on the bench he can't play. Whether or not it's true it's just not fair to Ramsey who really hasen't been given a fair shot at the job, for all we know he might open up the offense by hitting recievers much deeper downfield, then maybe he wont, but there is no way to say because Gibbs has Brunell and he aint letting go, he couldn't let go last year and everyone on this board was on the Ramsey bandwagon because of the horrific play of Brunell, and it was true, many of us also felt it wasen't all Brunell's fault either, but Ramsey simply outplayed him under the same circumstances.

Ramsey may never get a chance again with us, but he's going to prove himself somewhere next season, good or bad. I believe he will go on to be very good for someone.


He deserves a chance to prove or disprove he's as dumb as everyone say's! Although now that we are basically down to 1 WR I could see Gibbs throwing Ramsey in there to protect Brunell's persona.

Couldn't agree more, he's proven to outplay Brunell under the same conditions last year, and he had more passing yards in 1 quarter against the Bears than Brunell had all game.

This misconception that Ramsey wouldn't have progressed and become better with this offense just like Brunell has isn't fair to Ramsey, he hasen't been given the same opportunities as Brunell, to many here believe just because Ramsey is on the bench he can't play. Whether or not it's true it's just not fair to Ramsey who really hasen't been given a fair shot at the job, for all we know he might open up the offense by hitting recievers much deeper downfield, then maybe he wont, but there is no way to say because Gibbs has Brunell and he aint letting go, he couldn't let go last year and everyone on this board was on the Ramsey bandwagon because of the horrific play of Brunell, and it was true, many of us also felt it wasen't all Brunell's fault either, but Ramsey simply outplayed him under the same circumstances.

Ramsey may never get a chance again with us, but he's going to prove himself somewhere next season, good or bad. I believe he will go on to be very good for someone.


He deserves a chance to prove or disprove he's as dumb as everyone say's! Although now that we are basically down to 1 WR I could see Gibbs throwing Ramsey in there to protect Brunell's persona.

Wow your really reading into this... Bottom Line RAMSEY Is not Good and were 5-5. If we get worse maybe Campbell will come in.

I'm sorry but i've put my matches away so i wouldn't burn up the regular season prematurely. we can still make some noise. we just can't look too far ahead.this team is still learning.as aggrivating as that is , the trip has been sooooooooo long and soooooooo painful that we are impatient for it to happen. my name is at the top of just such a list.this is like someone learning to play guitar who wants to play a song.but it won't happen til they learn the chords, and sometimes that twang can be painful.BUT, when we learn how play that power chord then the music will begin.

Don't get me wrong, I like Patrick Ramsey and if he got put back into the starting position, I'd pull for him too! But, I just dont' see Ramsey having the same type of leadership qualities that Mark Brunell possess. I think those qualities come with time. I believe Patrick is a late bloomer. There are several quarterbacks who really don't prove themselves until later in their career. I'm think Patrick is one of those guys. He has had the opportunitity to come in and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a team leader and a starter. You have got to be both as a quarterback. I think Ramsey is good enough to start on many teams, but not good enough to be a team leader. In time, I think he will be, but I do not believe replacing Mark Brunell is the answer to getting us out of this slump.

Holding onto the ball is what will get us out of this slump.

Why bother, Brunell will be back as the starter again next year in all likelihood.

If we drop 4 or 5 in a row, yeah maybe give Ramsey or Campbell a start. But at 5-5 it's not time to fold up the tent just yet.

Exactly.