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EternalEnigma21 12-20-2005, 10:55 PM You know, I'll bet there's about a million fans out there accross america that would like him to stay. I could spare ten bucks...
If everyone else could... it may be worth his while! I just don't want to see all of the hard work that gibbs, buges, breaux, and williams, and the players have been putting in over the last couple of years be for nothing. As fans we've been buying and spending our money on all of the goddamn merchandise, and tickets and stadium beer for years to see our team get our hopes up and fall short... and now we're possibly on the verge of another dominant term among the NFC's best and I don't want anything to start over.
Belickeck (spelling?) had his big O and D coordinators leave and he's doing all right, but our D has been our backbone while the offense is up and down. Our coaching staff right now other than williams, blanche, etc.. is primarily geared for offense, and I'm not sure how much of the intensity and planning would remain if he left.
JWsleep 12-21-2005, 01:32 AM THere is a good article about all this by Wise at the Post: A Williams Exit Would Be Well Planned (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/19/AR2005121901784.html)
My bet is Williams will go, because he is going to be offered a "whatever you want" deal somewhere. He's got something to prove: that's he's not just a great coordinator, but a great head coach on the NFL. It's only if he's already decided to give it a serious SB run with Gibbs, come what may, that he'll stay.
I agree that the real question is about Blache and the assistants.
illdefined 12-21-2005, 10:44 AM i have a sinking feeling he'll leave. and it won't be about money.
one of the things he was asked on 60 seconds w/Gregg Williams was to describe Gibbs in one word. he might've just had an argument with him but he said "Prideful" right away, in a kind of bad way. "Proud" is the good way to say it.
Williams is a much more aggressive personality than Gibbs, they keep their sides so separate, not necessarily a bad thing - and who could blame him after last year - but there might be some actual division there.
Williams is not a shy guy, he doesn't want to be a coordinator for long. who knows maybe his title Head Coach - Defense was his idea. He's a proud man too and i think a guy like him would want his legacy to be like Marvin Lewis's; take a whole new team to a whole new level.
i dont think he'd be happy headcoaching to the superbowl with "Joe Gibbs's Offense". sorta like Gruden winning with "Tony Dungy's team", even though this is totally HIS defense. i hope i'm 100% wrong, but you can just tell he's bottled up a bit here.
hope the team, the fans, Snyder and Gibbs do everything they can to make him stay, and i hope its enough.
My gut says he stays one more year to see if he can finish what he started here.
skinsguy 12-21-2005, 11:01 AM I think if we won the Super Bowl this year, he'd probably leave. Something tells me that until that happens, he'd probably not get the "right" deal as a head coach at this point right now.
irish 12-21-2005, 11:03 AM My gut says he stays one more year to see if he can finish what he started here.
While we understand GWs importance to the teams success I'm not sure the average fan does and any success this team does have this year will be credited to Gibbs with GW and Bugel getting mentions as helping out. So I think most people see everything realted to this team as what Gibbs started not what GW started for the simple reason Gibbs is head coach.
GW is from MO and if either of those teams offers him the head coach job he will take it to go back home.
amorentz 12-21-2005, 11:04 AM Here is what I would like to see, and I cant think of any reason why it would be against league policies.
Snyder should sign Williams to a contract paying head coach money (lord knows he can afford it, and it has no cap effect) that explicitly states that Williams will immediately become head coach upon Gibbs' retirement (cant be more than 5 or so years down the line).
That way Williams gets to keep learning under a hall of fame coach, keep putting together his team (with an owner who will spend the money), and take over a team that is in great shape that he has 3-5 years of his fingerprints on.
Why would any party to this agreement (Williams, Snyder or Gibbs) NOT want to do this?
Here is what I would like to see, and I cant think of any reason why it would be against league policies.
Snyder should sign Williams to a contract paying head coach money (lord knows he can afford it, and it has no cap effect) that explicitly states that Williams will immediately become head coach upon Gibbs' retirement (cant be more than 5 or so years down the line).
That way Williams gets to keep learning under a hall of fame coach, keep putting together his team (with an owner who will spend the money), and take over a team that is in great shape that he has 3-5 years of his fingerprints on.
Why would any party to this agreement (Williams, Snyder or Gibbs) NOT want to do this?
He's already being paid HC type money. Not sure what the #'s are exactly, but the word is he's very well compensated here.
As far as an agreement to take over for Gibbs that's fine and dandy, but you can't realistically expect Williams to wait another 3 years.
While we understand GWs importance to the teams success I'm not sure the average fan does and any success this team does have this year will be credited to Gibbs with GW and Bugel getting mentions as helping out. So I think most people see everything realted to this team as what Gibbs started not what GW started for the simple reason Gibbs is head coach.
GW is from MO and if either of those teams offers him the head coach job he will take it to go back home.
Like I said, just a gut feeling.
I don't think any of us know what's going to happen, only GW knows and right now I'm sure he's focused on the task at hand.
12thMan 12-21-2005, 11:11 AM I think he stays for one more. After that all bets are off.
I would like to see Blache and Lindsay stay if he left, however.
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