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Old 12-12-2008, 12:05 PM   #46
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what bothers me is the double standard. for some reason our judicial system is, and always will be, about the money
In what way?
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what do you think happens to me if i commit a crime? i go to jail, plain and simple. did he commit a crime? yes. is he in jail? no. what is so mindless about that?
If you commit a crime you get arrested then get bail (if your not a flight risk or the crime is not to bad) and you get out of jail until your court date. Why is that any different then what is happening with him?
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what bothers me is the double standard. for some reason our judicial system is, and always will be, about the money
You're like our own little Cesar Chavez You're all about anti-business and power to the people aren't you
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:34 PM   #49
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this man is employed to do what is best for the people. i hardly call what he did as representing anyone, but his own agenda. as far as power to the people, your darn right. this is a difference in belief. lets use the auto bail out for example. my belief is the big 3 were/ are grossly mis- managed. the republicans in senate are looking at the every day workers, saying they make too much money. in comparison, the big 3 wages are in line with Toyota, and Honda. to me there is nothing wrong with earning top dollar in the work place. to the G.O.P, this is a travesty. if your talking about the Chavez that stood up for the farm workers, then yes i am
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this man is employed to do what is best for the people. i hardly call what he did as representing anyone, but his own agenda. as far as power to the people, your darn right. this is a difference in belief. lets use the auto bail out for example. my belief is the big 3 were/ are grossly mis- managed. the republicans in senate are looking at the every day workers, saying they make too much money. in comparison, the big 3 wages are in line with Toyota, and Honda. to me there is nothing wrong with earning top dollar in the work place. to the G.O.P, this is a travesty. if your talking about the Chavez that stood up for the farm workers, then yes i am
Sorry the big 3 workers make more then the Honda/Toyota.
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this man is employed to do what is best for the people. i hardly call what he did as representing anyone, but his own agenda. as far as power to the people, your darn right. this is a difference in belief. lets use the auto bail out for example. my belief is the big 3 were/ are grossly mis- managed. the republicans in senate are looking at the every day workers, saying they make too much money. in comparison, the big 3 wages are in line with Toyota, and Honda. to me there is nothing wrong with earning top dollar in the work place. to the G.O.P, this is a travesty. if your talking about the Chavez that stood up for the farm workers, then yes i am
what? Seriously that doesn't make a lot of sense. The question is this. What exactly does his scope of wealth have to do with anything right now and how is our judicial system about money? Just asking for a clear explanation of what you think here. Platitudes and demagoguery don't help.
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ok, let me put this in laymans terms. is there anyone on this board that thinks Gov. Blagojevich is going to do any jail time?
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ok, let me put this in laymans terms. is there anyone on this board that thinks Gov. Blagojevich is going to do any jail time?
What's the point of saying "If he's convicted, then yes" What's the point of saying he could be like Bob Ney, James Traficant, or Ernest Newtown (among other politicians)?
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ok, let me put this in laymans terms. is there anyone on this board that thinks Gov. Blagojevich is going to do any jail time?
So you're angry because of what may or may not happen? I know we have diferent views and I am not arguing those issues. What I find unfortunate is that your views in this matter are so emotiuonally based and have absolutely no solid reasoning. There hasn't been one iota of information indicatng he had gotten any type of special treatment from our judicial system. He is being treated exactly how anyone else would be. And yes, I think when a federal prosecutor goes after your ass, especially Pat Fitzgerald, you're going to jail. See:Scooter Libby who is arguably "more important" than Blags is.
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ok, let me put this in laymans terms. is there anyone on this board that thinks Gov. Blagojevich is going to do any jail time?
What bet do you wish to make? Name it. $50.00 ? The parrot avatar for a month?

There are lots of things wrong with our system and, yes, money tends to skew it. But sometimes, just sometimes, justice is actually served. He will go to jail and be fined a significant amount. Count on it.
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ah Joe, the voice of reason. i have had some legal dealings( thru my daughter) and have seen first hand how money makes it go. your rationale makes me gain confidence that justice will be served. i really believe the system works, if we let it
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Let's not kid ourselves, people in position of power don't get the same treatment as those that aren't. They get treated better mainly because they can afford better lawyers, that is a fact of life. Unfortunately Blogo was able to walk with $4,500 bail, fortunately the man is relatively poor, is so stupid and so blatant he will without a doubt end up in jail and serve some serious time. Regrettably, he'll end up in a federal pen where salad tossing is not prevalent.
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Let's not kid ourselves, people in position of power don't get the same treatment as those that aren't. They get treated better mainly because they can afford better lawyers, that is a fact of life. Unfortunately Blogo was able to walk with $4,500 bail, fortunately the man is relatively poor, is so stupid and so blatant he will without a doubt end up in jail and serve some serious time. Regrettably, he'll end up in a federal pen where salad tossing is not prevalent.
Yup. That's pretty much the case. And, quite frankly, most prosecutors are paid substantially less than the defense attorneys for high profile guys. So, unless truly dedicated (which does happen), the prosecutors tend to be younger and/or just not as good as the defense attorneys they face. Also, in general, prosecutors can't focus the resources that the defense can on any particular case. Yes, the State has tons of money BUT its got to be divided among tons of cases. Bottom line, lots of money means your more likely be able to buy yourself a better defense.

With that said, in some cases, you just can't avoid the truth (see M. Vick and a host of other mega-rich defendents that still managed to get jail time). This is one of those cases. Unless the feds f'ed up the wiretap request (here's betting that they didnt), they have this guy's admitting his intent to auction off the seat among other stuff - read the indictment.

He will be in jail and, as betraying public trust is one of those things that particular pisses of the public, I suspect he will be made an example.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:37 PM   #59
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When you get indicted by a fed prosecutor you are done. I am too lazy to look up the stats right now but I remember from the Libby case that Fed prosecutions end up in conviction like 90%+ of the time. And when you get convicted of a federal crime you go to jail. They don't waste hundreds of thousands and political capital for probabtion.
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Official: Blagojevich May Quit on Monday
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