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Old 04-29-2009, 11:54 PM   #46
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Those wacky pirates and their clever little schemes never work. What a bunch of jokers.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:20 AM   #51
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I'm worried that by killing these three pirates, we have only made it easier for our enemies to recruit new pirates in the future. We've got ot stop pushing our weight around like this and rely more on negotiation and diplomacy. Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhhh Matey!
Nice ! If own a ship , my crew is armed and have a security team of some sort on board to boot !
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Not sure which is more stupid. The pirates attacking the French Command ship or said ship (1) allowing a couple of skiffs to get close enough to attack - were the sentries taking a nap?? and (2) one of the priate skiffs escaping from an attack on the French Command ship - "uhh, which way did he go? which way did he go?"

I would hope that a similar attack on an US naval vessel would lead to all but one one pirate dead and the sole remaining pirate safely captured to give up info.

Just as an "as if" -- If a bunch of "lightly armed" pirates can approach and attack the French command ship, I would think that an attack by the Navy Seals could board the ship, wipe out the crew and sink the ship without any one ever knowing what happened to it. --- just saying.
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So I read that the pirates attacked the Maersk Alabama again and I wonder if it was targeted or just luck they hit this ship again. This time it seems they where armed and faught them off.
My question is - Which is more cost effective and ultimately safer: Hiring a highly qualified, well armed detachment for each of your ships sailing in the troubled area or paying ransom, paying for lost time, exposing the company to the loss of valuable personnel & property and putting lives at risk.

It would seem to me the former is ultimately cheaper even just as a deterrence force - I'd rather pay my mercenaries than pirates even if the risk of attack is slim. It always seemed pretty straightforward to me, maybe I am missing something.
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My question is - Which is more cost effective and ultimately safer: Hiring a highly qualified, well armed detachment for each of your ships sailing in the troubled area or paying ransom, paying for lost time, exposing the company to the loss of valuable personnel & property and putting lives at risk.

It would seem to me the former is ultimately cheaper even just as a deterrence force - I'd rather pay my mercenaries than pirates even if the risk of attack is slim. It always seemed pretty straightforward to me, maybe I am missing something.
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My question is - Which is more cost effective and ultimately safer: Hiring a highly qualified, well armed detachment for each of your ships sailing in the troubled area or paying ransom, paying for lost time, exposing the company to the loss of valuable personnel & property and putting lives at risk.

It would seem to me the former is ultimately cheaper even just as a deterrence force - I'd rather pay my mercenaries than pirates even if the risk of attack is slim. It always seemed pretty straightforward to me, maybe I am missing something.
i think and heard the decision of whether to arm the crew, hire your own security detail or just pay the ransom is the decision of the insurance companies of the shipping companies. the shipping co saves money on insurance by not arming their own crew b/c, i imagine, a forseeable gunfight between trained militia pirates vs. a non-trained shipping crew could end up with alot of wrongful death suits.

looks like shipping co and their insurance carriers might be deciding that hired security detail is the way to go compared to their thought process a few years ago.
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If you're a oil/cargo tanker you absolutely need to hire security if you're traveling in pirate seas. If you're a small fishing ship stay the hell out of those waters...either that or get military support from your government. To be honest though you can't defend against an RPG heading your way from 300 feet.
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The day the it becomes a US Federal priority is the day this nonsense stops.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:39 AM   #58
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A few 50 caliber machine guns should do the trick http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/systems/dvic552.jpg ... YouTube - .50 Cal Machine Gun Waterfun
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I'm guessing it was dark and they attacked a US Navy ship in error or they are really, really, dumb. It was great target practice and we wiped a few of them off the earth.
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I could have sworn Time Magazine named Somalia the worst country in the world not to long ago.

Well at least this website says it's one of the worst:
World’s Top 10 Worst Countries to Visit | Trifter
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Remember the movie by Ridley Scott, Black Hawk Down? It is a movie that bought the ugly conflict in Somalia for mainstream viewing. It is also good to mention that they have no central government and that has been happening since 1991. Somalia is a nice country but if you are planning to travel there, I suggest that you hire your own heavily armed guards. Daily rates for the guards vary from a couple of hundred bucks or several hundred bucks, depending on whom you hire. Failure to do so, may result in death.
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