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Old 02-17-2010, 01:50 PM   #46
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Let's approach the pro-abortion stance from another angle. If it's a woman's body to make decisions with, then alright! How come I can't say, main-line crystal meth? It's my body right? Take the morals and ethos out and make it a question of ownership. What about suicide? Take away the morals and it should be perfectly legal, right?

If it's my body, how come I can't shoot dope or commit suicide? Yet abortion, that's off limits? Somehow infanticide is legal and moral, yet being a junkie or euthanizing old people isn't?
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:06 PM   #47
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Their lives are discernible as the "lump of cells" may be destroyed with no harm to the mother's physical well being. If a life form begins its life as a parasite, depending on its host initially but growing to independence, isn't it still a life form? It's not like the woman is growing an extra kidney that will be absorbed into her body as a necessary part of it's function.
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Life (cf. biota) is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have self-sustaining biological processes from those that do not–either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as "inanimate."
Seeing how they are not self-sustaining I don't see how you can classify them as a life-form when they're in the early stages of development.

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Even if it is a "lump of cells" at some point, when does it gain its humanity? To my knowledge their is no agreement on this point. Because of this, the abortion of a fetus raises the possibility, however slight, that a murder is being committed.
You'll have to clarify what you mean by humanity. There's certainly agreement as to when a fetus is not viable. Statistically speaking fetuses don't survive outside the womb before 21.5 weeks of gestation (~5 months). Honestly, if a fetus is not alive, certainly not at the early stages of development, and can't survive on its own I can't see how that can be classified as murder. Most states have similar position as they have a viability clause in their abortion statute. If it's viable it's murder, if it's not viable it isn't murder.

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Let's approach the pro-abortion stance from another angle. If it's a woman's body to make decisions with, then alright! How come I can't say, main-line crystal meth? It's my body right? Take the morals and ethos out and make it a question of ownership. What about suicide? Take away the morals and it should be perfectly legal, right?

If it's my body, how come I can't shoot dope or commit suicide? Yet abortion, that's off limits? Somehow infanticide is legal and moral, yet being a junkie or euthanizing old people isn't?
We finally agree on something...meth should be legal and if you rob and steal trying to support your meth habit you should be sent to a suicide booth.
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Simply calling the blatant disregard for human life as I see it. If you're offended by the comparison, you may want to examine your beliefs with a little help from a conscience.
and you think liberals are condescending?
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and you think liberals are condescending?
Yes. Murder is not a minor thing, sorry if I don't pass it off for my own selfish reasons.
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murder= illegal
abortion= legal
2 totally different things
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murder= illegal
abortion= legal
2 totally different things
That's not a very good argument.

Robbery = illegal
Extortion = illegal
Racketeering = illegal
US code of Taxation = legalized Robbery, Extortion, and Racketeering.

Using that logic, abortion is legalized murder.
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that statement came from you. that's why i didnt use that logic
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Simply calling the blatant disregard for human life as I see it. If you're offended by the comparison, you may want to examine your beliefs with a little help from a conscience.
If only Hitler's mother chose abortion I would be a lot less offended.
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that statement came from you. that's why i didnt use that logic
Your ad hominem dissmisiveness doesn't fly.
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I'll keep my personal beliefs to myself on this issue, but I've always felt that common ground can, and should be reached. In fact, I've been fairly passionate on this issue.

No-one wants to see babies die. I think that is a fair thing to say.

The pro-life movement is focusing one changing legislation that simply isn't going to happen. It won't be overturned.

I think it's in everyone's best interest to prevent conception in the first place. We should make it rain birth control in all shapes and forms. If we can divert our resources from attempts to change/maintain policies to helping counsel those who are pregnant, prevent pregnancy in the first place, and educate the population we would be in much better shape than we are now.

This is something that needs to happen. Rant over.
The most reasonable and intellectually honest post on the issue.
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If only Hitler's mother chose abortion I would be a lot less offended.
Does that mean you'd help pay for me to have a vasectomy? I'm serious. It costs too much money for me. It's that or suffer under my army of darkness. :FIREdevil
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That's not a very good argument.

Robbery = illegal
Extortion = illegal
Racketeering = illegal
US code of Taxation = legalized Robbery, Extortion, and Racketeering.

Using that logic, abortion is legalized murder.

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TTE, you only need a vasectomy if you plan on using it. so you should be safe
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