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Old 03-17-2010, 02:01 PM   #61
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That my friend is called paranoia.
Seriously.

Fox News really works I guess.
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Old 03-17-2010, 02:01 PM   #62
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No its Jack Asses that think we should change for every Tom dick and harry that comes here.Hell while we are at it why don't we start driving on the left side of the road and put stearing wheels on the left side of the cars because go forbid if we ask them to learn how to drive our way. I should leave its the fing liberal thinking and liberals that we need to get the F out of this counrty. You guys can start your own little world where no one works and everyone speaks a different language.
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Seriously.

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liberals need to leave because free thinking has no fucking place in America

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As an aside, at the fall of the western Roman Empire, it it was Christianity that preserved much of the ancient knowledge that otherwise would have been lost with the Fall of Rome. How the Irish Saved Civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

That my friend is a fabrication.
What, specifically, are you asserting is a fabrication?
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No its Jack Asses that think we should change for every Tom dick and harry that comes here.Hell while we are at it why don't we start driving on the left side of the road and put stearing wheels on the left side of the cars because go forbid if we ask them to learn how to drive our way. I should leave its the fing liberal thinking and liberals that we need to get the F out of this counrty. You guys can start your own little world where no one works and everyone speaks a different language.
I could hardly be considered liberal.

I'm just stating facts. There's no law saying anyone has to speak anything. There's also no law that you have to listen to another language. For example, if you own a business and someone comes in asking for something in Spanish, you're well within your rights to kick their ass out.

They don't have to speak English, and you don't have to listen to other languages if you don't want.
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That my friend is wishful thinking.
If you need a translator in court the cards are already stacked against you. It's like going in without a lawyer. I can't speak legalise but I do understand a little Latin, Common-law, and I know a little code. Someone who doesn't speak English will not be able to tell if his lawyer or translator is full of it. He has to go on faith. If that isn't a second class citizen, I don't know what is.
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That my friend is called funny as a MOFO!
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I'd probably say not to champion Christians and Catholics of those who saved knowledge as they did their fair share of destroying it as well.
You sit judging and accusing that the fundamentalist religious right as ignoring history - yet then commit the same exact act.

Boethius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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"One of the great contributions of the monasteries was the preservation of
the learning of the classical world and that of the church. Learning did not
entirely die out in western Europe, of course. Seeing that the ability to read
Greek was quickly disappearing, the sixth-century Roman scholar Boethius, an administrator under the Ostrogothic king Theodoric, determined to preserve Greek learning by translating all of Plato and Aristotle into Latin. Only Aristotle's treatises on logic were translated, and these remained the sole works of that philosopher available in the West until the twelfth century.

Unjustly accused of treachery by Theodoric, Boethius was thrown into prison, where he wrote The Consolation of Philosophy while awaiting execution. This little work later became a medieval textbook on philosophy.

Cassiodorus, a contemporary of Boethius who had also served Theodoric,
devoted most of his life to the collection and preservation of classical
knowledge. By encouraging the monks to copy valuable manuscripts, he was instrumental in making the monasteries centers of learning. Following his example, many monasteries established scriptoria, departments concerned exclusively with copying manuscripts"
Christianity, The Church In The Early Middle Ages

Yes. organized religion in general has its flaws, some eggregious, as it is a human creation, but to ignore the benefits it has passed on to us through our history because of these flaws is just mind boggling .
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You sit judging and accusing that the fundamentalist religious right as ignoring history - yet then commit the same exact act.

Boethius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes. organized religion in general has its flaws, some eggregious, as it is a human creation, but to ignore the benefits it has passed on to us through our history because of these flaws is just mind boggling .
No sir, I did not commit the same act at all. I'm not sure why you would accuse me of that.
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If you need a translator in court the cards are already stacked against you. It's like going in without a lawyer. I can't speak legalise but I do understand a little Latin, Common-law, and I know a little code. Someone who doesn't speak English will not be able to tell if his lawyer or translator is full of it. He has to go on faith. If that isn't a second class citizen, I don't know what is.
Money talks point blank. Going to courst and not understanding fullty what's going on? That my friend is called the US justice system.
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What, specifically, are you asserting is a fabrication?
Did the Roman Empire fall before or after 1066? That my friend is when Christianity was forced upon the British by descendants of Vikings living in modern day France off the WWII famous coast of Normandy.
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No sir, I did not commit the same act at all. I'm not sure why you would accuse me of that.
Initially reading your post, it appeared to me that you were denying the role that Christianity, particularly Roman Catholicism, played in preserving the knowledge of the ancient greeks and romans along with denying the role that monastaries played in preserving and teaching scholarship. If that is not what you were doing, fine. I withdraw the accusation.
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Money talks point blank. Going to courst and not understanding fullty what's going on? That my friend is called the US justice system.
Yes it does. Consider this: How many guys who speak broken English can run for and win a public office? No matter how well his campaign is funded, he'll be perceived as a foreigner.

Say I have a construction site full of illegals. They may know how to put up a house like nobody's business. Let the county inspector show up. Do you think those illegals can site code? No they can't. The English speaking foreman who picked them up at the Lowe's Parking lot does though.

If you don't see the logic in what I'm presenting to you. You might as well SQUAWK POLLY SQUAWK! ha ha ha
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I'd probably say not to champion Christians and Catholics of those who saved knowledge as they did their fair share of destroying it as well.
Christians did save many works which may have been destroyed in the fall of Rome.

However, ancient Christians also burned the books of Aristotle and Plato, indirectly helping to launch the so-called "Dark Ages." The only reason we still have many of these ancient Greek philosophical classics is because they were saved and studied by medieval Muslims. Of course, Muslims have since burned other books, such as "The Satanic Verses."

I'm agreeing with you, tryfuhl.
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Initially reading your post, it appeared to me that you were denying the role that Christianity, particularly Roman Catholicism, played in preserving the knowledge of the ancient greeks and romans along with denying the role that monastaries played in preserving and teaching scholarship. If that is not what you were doing, fine. I withdraw the accusation.
Spoken quite the lawyer.

It's a vicious cycle, I try not to tie anyone of any belief set into the masses, sometimes it's easy or convenient though.. at least once they've presented their case.
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