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Old 03-31-2010, 12:50 PM   #31
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No they don't. So what your saying is that they now have to pass laws to tell us what we can do? Your wearing me out. If their is no ban to stop them from selling the rights to allow drilling then there is no reason to pass a law saying they can. It a given that they can because there is no ban on doing so.
FD, most people really just want to ignore this part:
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:56 PM   #32
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About time . . . . maybe we can get a new nuclear plant too. The governor needs to break up VEPCO. It's the worst damned monopoly ever.
Waht's that VEPCO?
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:07 PM   #33
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Waht's that VEPCO?
Dominion VA Power. They're all over the South now with different names. It's the same company and it's a monopoly in VA. Strange that no Rep or Dem governor has ever broken it up? I mean competion is a good thing in a capitialist society . . . up . . I forgot.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:11 PM   #34
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We have Duke Energy and Piedmont Natural Gas (highway robbery).
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:12 PM   #35
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We have Duke Energy and Piedmont Natural Gas (highway robbery).
That's the key word.
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I think after you get 3 miles off the coast it becomes federal waters and not the states. I know that three mile line changes what we can fish for if we are over three miles out because of this. I think the only thing that is really left to decide is how the state and the federal goverment will share in the revenue and how and to whom will they lease the rights. I'm still not sure why this is such big new other then the fact that Obama and the congress could but the ban back in force.
my point was that it is allowed unless specifically banned.
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:14 PM   #37
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I'm with 12th...

worn... out

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Um, you quoted the Judicial Branches authority over admiralty, as well as all other law.


Last I checked Judicial!=Legislative!=Executive.
If you read through Article I

You will find no such explicit mention. Having said that, still no need to get in a tizzy, since Lord Obama is willing to bend some for this lowly need.
This is where a little critical thinking is required.

Regulating what goes on at sea falls under "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes" powers granted to congress. I mean, how exactly does one determine what waters belong to what State? It can also fall under "[provide for] general welfare of the United States." Yes, you can make the case for banning oil drilling due to the risk of oil spills and environmental damage it can do under general welfare clause.

What exactly does the Federal Judicial Branch deal with? Issues concerning the Constitution I imagine. The mere fact that federal courts have jurisdiction implies that congress can regulate the sea.

If you're going to pedal "you will find no such explicit mention" nonsense you should be aware that congress can pass any law it wishes so long as no constitutional provisions are violated. That is to say the Constitution tells you what you can do but it doesn't necessarily mean it tells you what you can't do. There is a distinction between the two.

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Old 03-31-2010, 02:53 PM   #39
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my point was that it is allowed unless specifically banned.
LOL...you have just made the federalist argument and you didn't even realize it.
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I think it's a good move.

I could really care less who initiated it or all the particulars. I mean really, the fact that it's happening is all that really matters.
what the deuuuce?!
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So lets take a littl poll here. How many years will this get tied up in red tape and then the court system? I'm going with 7 yrs. My gut says 10 yrs to never getting done.
are we talking the drilling or your admission that Obama isn't the anti-christ?
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:39 PM   #42
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Drill baby drill . Drill baby drill .... Obama = Palin !!!! I like this , PA. should get some drilling < Nat. Gas > soon ..... DRILL BABY DRILL !!!
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So lets take a littl poll here. How many years will this get tied up in red tape and then the court system? I'm going with 7 yrs. My gut says 10 yrs to never getting done.
10 to never has my vote.
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I'm with 12th...

worn... out

Wow , you age well !
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:55 PM   #45
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Never said he was I just do not agree with him on about 99% of the issues.
You have a boat , lets just go out to sea and strike oil ourselves !
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