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Old 03-31-2010, 02:53 PM   #46
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Um, you quoted the Judicial Branches authority over admiralty, as well as all other law.


Last I checked Judicial!=Legislative!=Executive.
If you read through Article I

You will find no such explicit mention. Having said that, still no need to get in a tizzy, since Lord Obama is willing to bend some for this lowly need.
This is where a little critical thinking is required.

Regulating what goes on at sea falls under "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes" powers granted to congress. I mean, how exactly does one determine what waters belong to what State? It can also fall under "[provide for] general welfare of the United States." Yes, you can make the case for banning oil drilling due to the risk of oil spills and environmental damage it can do under general welfare clause.

What exactly does the Federal Judicial Branch deal with? Issues concerning the Constitution I imagine. The mere fact that federal courts have jurisdiction implies that congress can regulate the sea.

If you're going to pedal "you will find no such explicit mention" nonsense you should be aware that congress can pass any law it wishes so long as no constitutional provisions are violated. That is to say the Constitution tells you what you can do but it doesn't necessarily mean it tells you what you can't do. There is a distinction between the two.

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Old 03-31-2010, 02:53 PM   #47
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my point was that it is allowed unless specifically banned.
LOL...you have just made the federalist argument and you didn't even realize it.
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So to wrap this up I think its great that Obama is going to allow drilling and not put the ban back inforce. To bad I will probably be an old man by the time of the off shore rigs start operating because of all the red tape and court hearings. Now that I think about it even if I'm an old man i can still go out and see them and get a woody because I'll have federal health care to buy my Viagra.
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I think it's a good move.

I could really care less who initiated it or all the particulars. I mean really, the fact that it's happening is all that really matters.
what the deuuuce?!
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So lets take a littl poll here. How many years will this get tied up in red tape and then the court system? I'm going with 7 yrs. My gut says 10 yrs to never getting done.
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So lets take a littl poll here. How many years will this get tied up in red tape and then the court system? I'm going with 7 yrs. My gut says 10 yrs to never getting done.
are we talking the drilling or your admission that Obama isn't the anti-christ?
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Drill baby drill . Drill baby drill .... Obama = Palin !!!! I like this , PA. should get some drilling < Nat. Gas > soon ..... DRILL BABY DRILL !!!
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So lets take a littl poll here. How many years will this get tied up in red tape and then the court system? I'm going with 7 yrs. My gut says 10 yrs to never getting done.
10 to never has my vote.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:47 PM   #54
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are we talking the drilling or your admission that Obama isn't the anti-christ?
Never said he was I just do not agree with him on about 99% of the issues.
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I'm with 12th...

worn... out

Wow , you age well !
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Never said he was I just do not agree with him on about 99% of the issues.
You have a boat , lets just go out to sea and strike oil ourselves !
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Damn , I have .... ANOTHER GREAT IDEA !!! As a plea bargain with the Feds. why not have the Michigan 9 , go out to sea in the middle east , and pirate Saudi oil vessels and bring the damn oil home now ? Damn , I'm good !
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Damn , I have .... ANOTHER GREAT IDEA !!! As a plea bargain with the Feds. why not have the Michigan 9 , go out to sea in the middle east , and pirate Saudi oil vessels and bring the damn oil home now ? Damn , I'm good !
Why not just take all that oil that people said Bush went to war for. I'm still waiting for that ship to come in.
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You have a boat , lets just go out to sea and strike oil ourselves !
Its really not this easy.
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FD , I almost went on a search for clips of the B.H.B show , LOL ! Nice work !
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