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Old 05-19-2010, 02:54 PM   #466
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:05 PM   #467
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Amercia has never been a free market economy. Implying if we tried a free market economy it would be something new. In my words a risky experiment.
There will always be a need for limited gov't regulation of companies/corps./businesses or they can and will act in strictly their own economic interests (to the detriment of the people), so our economy is not a pure free-market economy.

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Old 05-20-2010, 04:25 PM   #468
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it's kinda old news but not posted yet, that i see that is. pretty funny though

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Old 05-21-2010, 09:27 AM   #469
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I was talking to a friend over the weekend who is half Bolivian. His Mom is a legal immigrant from Bolivia. She for this law and is also for enforcing Federal immigration laws, because she thinks its unfair to entitle people who are here illegally with the same benefits she and many others worked so hard to obtain. I will ask my Grandmother who worked hard to become a legal immigrant what her thoughts are.

Out of curiosity, are any of you are first generation legal immigrants and if so what is your attitude of this law?
I talked to my Grandma last night, more specifically Grammy. All she ever wants to talk about is stuff like telling me to work hard, be honest, stay in contact with family and other old lady grandma advice. So when I asked her what she thought about the law she didnít really go into detail (and I donít get the sense she is up to date on her current events). She basically said that you have to do the honest thing and coming here illegally is not honest and is wrong. Thatís pretty much all I could get out of her.

Grammy immigrated to the US in either the early 50ís or late 40ís when she was like 25 or so, leaving a communist country. My dad was born here, but I think at least one of my aunts was born overseas. Like most immigrants she said they only came with what they could physically carry and had a low amount of money, like 20 bucks or something. She said it took her 5 years to be a citizen (but she had kids born here after she came).

Has anyone else talked to legal immigrants that worked hard to become citizens (or are working hard towards becoming a citizen) and get their view point?

Also, something that im sure will piss TTE off, she told me she just received a call from her insurance company and they reduced her car insurance by 25%! I have never seen her drive in my life and had no idea she had a license. Shes pretty old and im not sure how I feel about her driving.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:29 AM   #470
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:57 AM   #471
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Bolivia and Mexico are different in my opinion. I will use this analogy: America is a breakfast we have all contributed. Europeans contribution can be summed up as adding egss, Mexicans contribution can be summed up as bacon. We took half of their country and incorporated it into America. That border meant nothing to our ancestors and founding fathers, it has was always been the way it is (traditional values come in to play) Mexico has a special relationship to this country, far different than Bolivia's. Their influence on this country is far greater. It is not the same, and it is fair. Bolivia, what have they contributed to America? Mexico, what have they contributed to America? Our two biggest staes for starters.
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Old 05-21-2010, 12:43 PM   #472
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Oh yeah! MFer get him!
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Bolivia and Mexico are different in my opinion. ... Bolivia, what have they contributed to America? Mexico, what have they contributed to America? Our two biggest staes for starters.
Ah yes, the traditional eskimo greeting: "Hola! Habla usted espanol?".
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Ah yes, the traditional eskimo greeting: "Hola! Habla usted espanol?".
Continental. Alaska is barely populated.
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Continental. Alaska is barely populated.
Okay. But 1) It's a State and you initially placed no qualifications - so were you, once again, simply manipulating the english language to suit your own ends or simply being ignorant?

2) Population = Area. Excellent. Yet more stunning logic from jtf.

3) Hey, they gave us Sarah Palin. Even if you just rate population, bang for buck-wise, they are rocking the continental US!
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Okay. But 1) It's a State and you initially placed no qualifications - so were you, once again, simply manipulating the english language to suit your own ends or simply being ignorant?

2) Population = Area. Excellent. Yet more stunning logic from jtf.

3) Hey, they gave us Sarah Palin. Even if you just rate population, bang for buck-wise, they are rocking the continental US!
Well u win I was really talking about electoral votes.
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