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Old 05-28-2010, 01:46 PM   #61
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What's an FM? Frantic Moron I assume.

No, not at all. You can't spell worth a damn. And I've told you many times I think you're the worst I've ever seen. But I don't think you're a moron
I was thinking Fish Monger
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:51 PM   #62
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All they Rs are doing is destroying his brand and maybe (very maybe) they can pick the seat up. Nothing legal will come of it but ultimately BO was elected on the promise that he was different and didn't buy into all this insider DC BS. So soaking him in the aura of dirty politics is simply an exercise in killing this widespread(but shrinking) belief that BO is anything other than the same old same old. Be sure that this is about maintaining the position for Nov '10 but also building a case against BO in '12.
You nailed it.
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Pretty murky...

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Old 06-01-2010, 08:44 PM   #64
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GM, I'm curious. Do you think a crime was committed? I'm only asking because of the title of the thread.
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Old 06-01-2010, 08:49 PM   #65
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GM, I'm curious. Do you think a crime was committed? I'm only asking because of the title of the thread.
The articles I've read point to a violation of 18 USC 211 as a felony. I don't doubt for one second the Chicago-style politics sitting in 1600 PA Ave offered such a thing to Sestak. So, yeah. I guess I do think a crime was committed.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:03 PM   #66
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The articles I've read point to a violation of 18 USC 211 as a felony. I don't doubt for one second the Chicago-style politics sitting in 1600 PA Ave offered such a thing to Sestak. So, yeah. I guess I do think a crime was committed.
I'm not sure what Chicago style politics mean, but IF a crime was committed ---and I've heard Rep. Darrell (R) Issa throw this same violation around-- I would have to think that at least a specific offer for a paid position had to be offered.

At issue, is whether the White House broke federal law that prohibits exerting the promise of influence for obtaining a federal job, interfering in elections of promising employment for political activity. (I pulled this from a source)

Sestak was offered a non-compensated position, not a federal paying job. He had a thirty second conversation with Bill Clinton about a position on a "presidential board". Nothing specific was offered or declined, per Sestak. This is a bunch of political hay that's going nowhere except for the Sunday talk shows.
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Old 06-01-2010, 09:04 PM   #67
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By the way, Darrell Issa is the only one publicly pushing for an investigation.
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I'm not sure what Chicago style politics mean, but IF a crime was committed ---and I've heard Rep. Darrell (R) Issa throw this same violation around-- I would have to think that at least a specific offer for a paid position had to be offered.

At issue, is whether the White House broke federal law that prohibits exerting the promise of influence for obtaining a federal job, interfering in elections of promising employment for political activity. (I pulled this from a source)

Sestak was offered a non-compensated position, not a federal paying job. He had a thirty second conversation with Bill Clinton about a position on a "presidential board". Nothing specific was offered or declined, per Sestak. This is a bunch of political hay that's going nowhere except for the Sunday talk shows.
I too am curios what that means...Is it anything like Tampico style politics?
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I'm not sure what Chicago style politics mean, but IF a crime was committed ---and I've heard Rep. Darrell (R) Issa throw this same violation around-- I would have to think that at least a specific offer for a paid position had to be offered.

At issue, is whether the White House broke federal law that prohibits exerting the promise of influence for obtaining a federal job, interfering in elections of promising employment for political activity. (I pulled this from a source)

Sestak was offered a non-compensated position, not a federal paying job. He had a thirty second conversation with Bill Clinton about a position on a "presidential board". Nothing specific was offered or declined, per Sestak. This is a bunch of political hay that's going nowhere except for the Sunday talk shows.
I guess you could also call it arm-twisting politics...
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I'm not sure what Chicago style politics mean, but IF a crime was committed ---and I've heard Rep. Darrell (R) Issa throw this same violation around-- I would have to think that at least a specific offer for a paid position had to be offered.

At issue, is whether the White House broke federal law that prohibits exerting the promise of influence for obtaining a federal job, interfering in elections of promising employment for political activity. (I pulled this from a source)

Sestak was offered a non-compensated position, not a federal paying job. He had a thirty second conversation with Bill Clinton about a position on a "presidential board". Nothing specific was offered or declined, per Sestak. This is a bunch of political hay that's going nowhere except for the Sunday talk shows.
I wouldn't go that far. Gibbs is getting peppered with questions about it daily. Most likely it's not as serious as some are saying, but I don't think it's the "nothing to see here, move along" afterthought that the White House claims it to be.
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Re: A Felon in the White House?

And, initially, Watergate was just a two-bit burglary gone wrong and Monica Lewinsky was just some woman referred to by a disgruntled former Clinton employee.

Not saying this is the next Watergate or Lewinsky, just saying almost every major political scandal starts small. Of course, a lot of little scandals happen all the time. You never know which one is going to end up having legs [insert crass Monica reference here].
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I guess you could also call it arm-twisting politics...
My new boss the other day enticed me to stay on with my company by offering me a promotion. I asked him if it come with a pay raise and he replied "Probably. I'll have to check and see if your current pay overlaps the new pay-grade." Is what he is doing a form of arm twisting? Unethical?
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My new boss the other day enticed me to stay on with my company by offering me a promotion. I asked him if it come with a pay raise and he replied "Probably. I'll have to check and see if your current pay overlaps the new pay-grade." Is what he is doing a form of arm twisting? Unethical?


I see you still have not made it to post #2.
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My new boss the other day enticed me to stay on with my company by offering me a promotion. I asked him if it come with a pay raise and he replied "Probably. I'll have to check and see if your current pay overlaps the new pay-grade." Is what he is doing a form of arm twisting? Unethical?
Come on Saden thats not even a very good example.
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I hope the tea party wins and cut taxes some more.
Yeah so then I don't have to hear them crying about wanting their country back.
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