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Old 06-22-2010, 11:49 AM   #31
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Murder is murder, period. Saying it's only justified as a punishment makes no sense to me at all. Yes, the act of murder should be punished. Life in prison is just fine. This eye for an eye bullshit however is absurd and caveman-esque thinking.

There are no statistics to show that the death penalty acts as a deterent and most families with a murdered family member report no feeling of satisfaction when their killer is put to death.
This is accurate. There are no studies that truly quantify the effect of the death penalty as a deterrent. Either way. Again, common sense says it doesn't work though.
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Murder is murder, period. Saying it's only justified as a punishment makes no sense to me at all. Yes, the act of murder should be punished. Life in prison is just fine. This eye for an eye bullshit however is absurd and caveman-esque thinking.

There are no statistics to show that the death penalty acts as a deterent and most families with a murdered family member report no feeling of satisfaction when their killer is put to death.
Murder = Killing an innocent

Killing = Is justified (like the hamburgers that you eat)

Life in prison is just fine with me too, under hard labor where I don't flip the bill. The only problem with that is, bleeding heart liberal assholes let them out and they do it all over again, and again, and again, etc. Life in prison is too good for a pedophile. They should be hung or shot. I'd do it myself if the police weren't in the way.
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Pretty much what it boils down to for me.

Killing is wrong, end of story. There shouldn't be any exceptions.
God killed people in the Bible. So is God wrong?
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God killed people in the Bible. So is God wrong?
LOL, yep.
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:13 PM   #35
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I was shocked that we still did this. They need to do more of this IMO. With today's DNA testing I find it hard to believe that innocent people would be put to death. People like John Allen Muhamed should be thrown in alligator pits. Now that would be a great way to stop people from killing innocent people.

I was watching TLC the other night and they have a piece on the Petit murders in Conn. These tow guys are still alive after they killled two children and the guys wife. F that! These two should be killed in the worst way possible. They should be tortured just like they tortured the victims.
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I was shocked that we still did this. They need to do more of this IMO. With today's DNA testing I find it hard to believe that innocent people would be put to death. People like John Allen Muhamed should be thrown in alligator pits. Now that would be a great way to stop people from killing innocent people.

I was watching TLC the other night and they have a piece on the Petit murders in Conn. These tow guys are still alive after they killled two children and the guys wife. F that! These two should be killed in the worst way possible. They should be tortured just like they tortured the victims.
DNA evidence is far from being an exact science.
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God killed people in the Bible. So is God wrong?
I'm not big on fairy tales.
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I would not mind if they kept them in jail if they would bring them over and have them wash my cars, boat, cut my grass, trim the yard, and then take them back. If that won't happen then hang the suckers. We could do this at the city court yard on Friday nights and the city could make money selling beer and food. They could also sell rotted vegetables that we could throw at them as they are escorted in. The city could also sell lottery tickets to see who gets to pull the leaver. Then the city could drop them in some hole and send their family the bill.
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I'm not big on fairy tales.
Me either but there is a difference between killing and murder. You've enjoyed the fruits of killing, or do you not eat meat?

Many Americans suffer from a life threatening disease called "affluentia". Many people are nice because they can afford to be. Take away the affluence and we'll act the same way everyone else does.
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Me either but there is a difference between killing and murder. You've enjoyed the fruits of killing.
Call it what you will but taking a human life is wrong. The law says so, no? But it's ok if the state does it? Sorry, can't buy that.
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LOL, yep.
I may not be the most religious person in the world, but even I am not prepared to tell the big man he's wrong. IMO that's the epitome of arrogance. You'll have to fight that battle on your own.
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DNA evidence is far from being an exact science.
You may or may not be right but when the cases are slam dunks like the ones I mentioned then something swift and ruthless needs to be done. These guys in Conn. raped and killed an 11year old and an 17 year old along w/ the mother. They were killed by smoke inhalation ( after they were all raped) or burned alive. These two killers have 0 rights and should have their throats slit like they do in the middle east. I may sound barbaric but I don't care. My heart goes out to the victims and their famlies, not the killers.
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Pretty much what it boils down to for me.

Killing is wrong, end of story. There shouldn't be any exceptions.
I don't agree. And I don't see it as hypocritical, there's a distinction.

Someone who murders in cold blood took the life of another, thereby taking that person's right to life. It follows that they themselves are now no longer deserving of maintaining their own right to life. They forfeited that right the moment they snuffed out the life of another.

All we're doing as a society is evening the score. I don't see that as murder at all. In my mind, killing is 100% justified in the case of convicted murderers. I could pull the trigger myself, I wouldn't lose one wink of sleep over taking out someone who murdered.
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Call it what you will but taking a human life is wrong. The law says so, no? But it's ok if the state does it? Sorry, can't buy that.
So when dope addicted scum break into your place, you're just going to let them do as they please with you and yours? Without law there can be no justice. Treblinka is a monument to the fallacy of your line of thinking. They thought killing was wrong too, even to defend themselves. I used to think like you do, (I'm not a fan of the government) but idealism has it's place.
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Pretty much what it boils down to for me.

Killing is wrong, end of story. There shouldn't be any exceptions.
Murder: kill intentionally and with premeditation or
unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being

Murder is always wrong.

Killing is not always wrong.

Justifiable homicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where is the justice for the victims of murder and their families? Life in prision with "3 hots and a cot", access to almost unlimited legal resources for appeal, etc. is nowhere near justice.
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