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Old 07-09-2010, 03:46 PM   #16
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The War makes the deficit bigger, extermely bigger? Do deficits affect city budgets?
I don't understand your premise. Since the war makes the Federal debt larger it forces a mid sized city to cut "essential services"? Colorado Springs has a budget, it gets money from federal aid, state aid, and local taxes. The city managers have to manage the city with that sum of money. They told the taxpayers that they needed more, much more, and the residents said we don't trust what you are doing. Now the city says ok then we will cut these services and see what happens. For the purposes of the article the Federal Debt only impacts Colorado Springs as far as the interest rates on any bonds they offer, and loans they take out. Your war hypothesis just doesn't really fit into this whole equation, especially since war funding does actually help and not hurt a city like Colorado Springs.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:47 PM   #17
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I'm sure the federal deficit has some affect on city budgets but I don't think its a major factor. Hell if anything Obama has that 700 and some billion for boots on the ground projects so I guess your right that deficit adding pork has done very little to help states and cities creat jobs. I guess we have now come full circle.
What 700 billion you talking bout? The 700 billion Bush begged for on TV, for the Wall Street boys he left out. They didn't get in on the insane profit of his boys gasoline futures speculationo, or his Halliburton no bid contracts. They didn't get any of that Trillion. So he had to beg for another 700 billion to cover them.
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here is a subset from the greater colorado springs business journal(number in parenthesis is active businesses):

Dancing Instruction (1)
Data Storage (1)
Defense Contractors (27)
Defense Systems (6)

Delivery Service-Business & Personal (1)
Demolition (1)
here is the full link in case you want to check it:
The Greater Colorado Springs Chamber of Commerce

interestingly the only other category with more businesses (other than "preferred partners") is "Restaurants Bars and Nightclubs" which again from personal knowledge is highly dependent on military funding.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:58 PM   #19
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here is a subset from the greater colorado springs business journal(number in parenthesis is active businesses):

Dancing Instruction (1)
Data Storage (1)
Defense Contractors (27)
Defense Systems (6)

Delivery Service-Business & Personal (1)
Demolition (1)
here is the full link in case you want to check it:
The Greater Colorado Springs Chamber of Commerce

interestingly the only other category with more businesses (other than "preferred partners") is "Restaurants Bars and Nightclubs" which again from personal knowledge is highly dependent on military funding.
U talking bout contractors who do stuff at the Base (clean up) that is not how the Trillion is spent. It is spent on millitary contractors like Lockheed making toys.
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U talking bout contractors who do stuff at the Base (clean up) that is not how the Trillion is spent. It is spent on millitary contractors like Lockheed making toys.
No JTF, I am talking about the contractors that make the electronics, companies heavily invested in the war effort you are talking about. i don't know if you are purposely hard headed, or you just don't want to acknowledge the point, but I understand the companies you are referring to and I am telling you that those are people who are living in the colo springs areas. I am very sorry it doesn't fit with your framework mentality.
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U talking bout contractors who do stuff at the Base (clean up) that is not how the Trillion is spent. It is spent on millitary contractors like Lockheed making toys.
You should read this, particularly page 39.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...jQYT4wnzgrFYTw

Your "toys" would be included in the procurement line item. But remember these contractors employ people and pay them very well to go over to such a hostile environment to build communications networks and support weapons systems. My company lost one of our very solid local employees to a contractor in Iraq (he got a 40% or so pay increase). The defense contractors need to employ people to make the toys and those are generally good paying jobs.

The contractors employed locally at the bases do a lot more than clean up the base. They often run IT systems or support DoD projects/programs that are specific to each local base. Those jobs also normally pay well and those people spend money in the local economy. So as much as you want to bash defense spending and defense contractors for everything, that simply isn't the case.
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these gov't pensions and pay are out of control. every time I call any gov't agency or dept they are the rudest most unprofessional people around. i worked a gov't job and from what i saw noone cares, noone does any work.

yet they demand to raise our taxes so that their ridiculus interest on their pension plan stays guaranteed. most of us dont have pensions, those things are dinosaur bones in the private sector, in the govt they are guaranteed like its 1986.

i hate hate hate most govt employees. the only good and helpful ones who actually do their job are people who are new, give them a year then they become rude sefl-entitled jerks who dont do squat except complain.

as to military contracts handed out to the priv contractors, you can make millions off the gov't in the name of military.
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War makes us poor.

The American Conservative War Makes Us Poor

"War is a racket"
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War is a Racket

I still don't understand what this has to do with the TEA Party? As a matter of fact, this is what is dividing the TEA Party.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Palin, Paul expose rift in Tea Party - Blogs from CNN.com

This is a spat between us right-wingers. AKA the Conservatives, Neo-Cons, and the Libertarians, although the Neo-Cons are socialist IMO. You don't know what it is to be a right winger JTF. So stick to your poliburo talk with the rest of your heathen commie brethren.
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Are you drinking again. I'm talking about Mr Obama's stimulas package that was suppose to fix all the problems but has done pretty much nothing.
Granted it's not a pic of 12thMan's girl, it still looks nice:


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Granted it's not a pic of 12thMan's girl, it still looks nice:


Wow! I needed a good laugh. I didn't know Sesame Street was putting out graphs!
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Are you drinking again. I'm talking about Mr Obama's stimulas package that was suppose to fix all the problems but has done pretty much nothing.
do you forget all of the teachers , police, and fireman jobs that were saved?
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Sounds good to me but it really sounds like a group of city leaders throwing a temper tamper because the people they work for voted against a TRIPLE tax increase. Sounds like they are cutting everything they can to tick people off instead of cutting other stuff that most people would never miss but that how liberals act when they don't get their way. I'm guessing that their tax revenues jumped way up 4 or so years ago so they spent all the extra money on new programs and other stuff. Now that the tax wind fall is over they don't have the money to pay for all the extra spending they did and this happened all over the US from city to city.
you mean the Republican mayor who's held a great deal of power for several years now throughout various positions?
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Yes, and we have some Dem's here in Va that are pretty conservative. I have actually voted for a few Dem's here in Va. In Va a liberal dem can only run for office in a few areas and would probably never win a state election for Governor.
that's why chuck colgan never ran for higher office

hell of a guy though
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Obama and the Dems are in control now and have been since Jan. 2009. Why don't they shut the wars down, they have the power and control?

Increases in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Interest on the national debt all make the deficit bigger not just the wars.
they need to send more troops and finish this up

they need to withdraw

etc etc etc

no matter what the admin announces the opposing side isn't happy with it
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