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Old 08-23-2010, 05:29 PM   #1
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Expose on the Tea Party Architects

This is a just published article about the Koch Brothers.

If anyone wants to know why theses two guys started the Tea Party check it out.

It's an eye opening look into the power of corporate influence in American politics.

The billionaire Koch brothers’ war against Obama : The New Yorker
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:36 PM   #2
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Interesting read for sure, thanks for sharing. Corporate influence is everywhere, hell you can find it in high school sports these days! The high school where I coach has a deal with Nike and Nibco.
I have no problems with the Tea Party, the majority of the people are just tired of their government not listening to them anymore and doing as it pleases at the expense of all of us. It is not an Obama thing, it is a government thing in general. Sure there are a few nuts here and there, but that is anywhere. I still do not think the liberal establishment does not know what to do with the likes of the Tea Parties of the world. When you do not understand something it is easy to discredit and try to pull apart.
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:17 PM   #3
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Sorry, the Tea Parties started in 2007 with the Ron Paul folks and it gained strength during 2008. The neocons through Sarah Palin hijacked it though after Obama was elected. The Koch brothers are big neocons and supporters of the GOP. They might be behind the hijacking of the Tea Parties, but they didn't start them. This piece is propaganda meant to discredit them.
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I heard they invented the internet?
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Sorry, the Tea Parties started in 2007 with the Ron Paul folks and it gained strength during 2008. The neocons through Sarah Palin hijacked it though after Obama was elected. The Koch brothers are big neocons and supporters of the GOP. They might be behind the hijacking of the Tea Parties, but they didn't start them. This piece is propaganda meant to discredit them.
Wrong. The Koch brothers are ardent libertarians.

They are by far the largest sponsor of "tea party" organizational funding nationwide.

The "Tea Party" as America knows it today was entirely shaped by the funding of the Koch Empire. They might have hijacked the name, but their financial support/influence made the current movement viable.
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Sorry, the Tea Parties started in 2007 with the Ron Paul folks and it gained strength during 2008. The neocons through Sarah Palin hijacked it though after Obama was elected. The Koch brothers are big neocons and supporters of the GOP. They might be behind the hijacking of the Tea Parties, but they didn't start them. This piece is propaganda meant to discredit them.
They are not even remotely close to neocons. You are completely wrong on this.
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Who cares about their inception when we all know they are a doomed group once the Republicans suck the life out of these poor saps and are done using them.
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I'm so glad the Tea Party is alive and well. I say leave 'em alone, they are giving some Dems a fighting chance this Novemeber.

Speaking of the Tea Party, anyone see that Major Garrett is leaving Fox News. Bit of a blow if you ask me.
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Kind of what the Dems have done with the poor for the past 50 or more years.
exactly what have the Rep's done for the poor?
does this count?
Obama Blasts GOP for Blocking Unemployment Extension - US News and ...
Jul 19, 2010 ... Republicans have blocked the extension of jobless benefits, which expired in the beginning of June, three times. ...
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So how long should we keep extending Unemployment? Right now some are going on two years of riding it out on unemployment and I thought this would be fixed with Obama's trillion dollar stimulus. How did that work out? Allot of people are just milking the system now and will find a job when their unemployment runs out. I know I get 2 or 3 people a week come in here acting like they are looking for a job when they know I'm not hiring then ask if they can use me as a referral for Un. Em.
when your not part of the solution, your part of the problem. who is hiring in your area? do you know of anyone? the people i know that are not working would give anything for work. they are not mooches. just honest Joe's, like me and you. not everyone out there is trying to screw the system
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The Democrat Party and media are in for a huge surprise and wakeup call in November if they don't stop thinking of the "Tea Party" movement as a political strategy.

It's made up on regular, everyday, working and voting Americans that are sick of where the country is going, the lies and spending...and just the general mindset of those in power right now. They're not being paid and bussed in like a lot of liberal protesters, they're not just Republicans, just Conservatives, or just of any single mindset. They're just pissed-off voters who are ready to throw all of the bums out. They're brought together by frustration over not being heard, not a particular goal or something in common with one another. This is why they're going to affect these elections...they don't want their own party or candidate to win, they just want America to return to what it's supposed to be.
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Kind of what the Dems have done with the poor for the past 50 or more years.
I don't know fd, they did just get health care at your expense not to mention all the other kickback perks like unemployment, ss, medicare, welfare, etc they have been getting for years. Hopefully your taxes go up so they can provide more perks in the future.
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The Democrat Party and media are in for a huge surprise and wakeup call in November if they don't stop thinking of the "Tea Party" movement as a political strategy.

It's made up on regular, everyday, working and voting Americans that are sick of where the country is going, the lies and spending...and just the general mindset of those in power right now. They're not being paid and bussed in like a lot of liberal protesters, they're not just Republicans, just Conservatives, or just of any single mindset. They're just pissed-off voters who are ready to throw all of the bums out. They're brought together by frustration over not being heard, not a particular goal or something in common with one another. This is why they're going to affect these elections...they don't want their own party or candidate to win, they just want America to return to what it's supposed to be.
The vast majority of the Tea Party movement is made up of conservative white people. That's a really big thing in common.

Keep alienating every single minority group and keep on voting for the party that protects the super rich and keep allowing for the corporate stranglehold on American politics and just watch as the Republican party continues it's inevitable decline in national influence.

Angry conservatives who just want "America to return to what it's supposed to be" are in for a big surprise over the next forty years.
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The Democrat Party and media are in for a huge surprise and wakeup call in November if they don't stop thinking of the "Tea Party" movement as a political strategy.

It's made up on regular, everyday, working and voting Americans that are sick of where the country is going, the lies and spending...and just the general mindset of those in power right now. They're not being paid and bussed in like a lot of liberal protesters, they're not just Republicans, just Conservatives, or just of any single mindset. They're just pissed-off voters who are ready to throw all of the bums out. They're brought together by frustration over not being heard, not a particular goal or something in common with one another. This is why they're going to affect these elections...they don't want their own party or candidate to win, they just want America to return to what it's supposed to be.

Buster, I don't know exactly what America is supposed to return to and what the Tea Party's solution to that is, but that's another discussion I guess.

As far as Dems being surprised, I highly doubt that as most predictions say that we'll either lose the House or come very close. I would say if Dems hold onto to both the House and the Senate, which is entirely possible because of the Tea Party candidates ousting reliable Republicans candidates who would have faired very well in the general, that would be the surprise of the day. I whole heartedly believe the media are secretly rooting for the Tea Party as that would be a significant narrative and signal a shift in American politics. I also take issue with the notion that Republicans, which is what the Tea Party is like it or not, are hard working 'Americans' and Democrats aren't. See it's this very fractured logic that will cause them to only appeal to a shrinking electorate.

If you look at the elections so far, prior to last two primaries incumbents are still winning more races and overall Dems are still stacking up pretty favorably. But don't take my word for it, look at the the special elections that have taken place since Obama has been in office. Even in reliably red districts, Dems are doing pretty darn good.

Is there a lot of angry sentiment out there towards this Administration, absolutely. But the Tea Party and the Republican party are going to have to come with a better slogan than "we want our country back", because that dog ain't going to hunt my friend. We've seen at least three national Tea Party candidates go up in flames recently: Sharon Angle, Rand Paul, and last night J.D. Hayword got trounced --trounced-- by old man McCain. My take is this whole movement/phenomenon is good for cable ratings, but unless you're putting together a message built on center/right or center/left policies, it's going to be an uphill battle in a general election.

If they can't harness this anger and frustration, as legitimate as it may be, it will all be for naught. And come November a lot of people will look at the results, not the rhetoric to see how effective the Tea Party really is...was.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:19 PM   #15
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As a proud Democrat, liberal, socialist commie, facist, or whatever you guys are calling us these days, my biggest hope in defeating the Republicans for the White House is that the GOP will extrapolate the mid-term results as the formula to defeat Obama 2012.

For what it's worth, and certainly unrelated to this thread, there are rumblings that the White House may be considering switching Joe Biden's and Hillary Clinton's posts for the 2012 ticket. She would become the new star of the Democrat party if that happens. There's not a Republican, Sarah Palin included, that would energize their base like Veep Clinton. Considering that Joe Biden has been very visible and vocal on both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, it's possible they are slowly switching their foreign policy roles. Stay tuned kids.
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