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Old 09-02-2010, 08:46 AM   #76
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Agreed. No offense, and sorry if i come off like a prick re: religion... just something that gets under my skin.
None taken, there are certainly plenty of maniacs claiming to be prophets of one kind or another.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:25 AM   #77
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Unfortunately Beck has a platform (or pulpit in this case) where he stands up and gives opinions which he is paid very well for. The message itself I agree with him 25% probably, maybe less. How he delievers that message I disagree with 100% of the time with his bullsh*t theatrics, crying, yelling, insults, lying, twisting of facts and stats, and most of all inconsistencies and hypocracies. Beck knows this type of bullsh*t, TMZ-like, pro wrestling acts sells...extremes. Sh*t I know papa bear probably grown a little jealous. Dude knows he gonna be hated and he loves it. Adds to that persona...you see how happy he was to let people know he wore a bullet proof vest for his service on Saturday? People need to wake up and see it for what it is...a damn circus
Yeah I understand exactly what you are saying, and you’ve obviously watched his show several times and decided that you didn’t like it for yourself.

I like The Colbert Report, but I can’t stand The Daily Show. I like Beck, I hate O’Riliey. I like Berman, I hate Kornhizer. I like Anheuser, I hate Miller. I completely understand personal taste like/dislikes, but I feel like a lot of people don’t like Beck without ever giving him a shot first and make up their mind from a few clips they saw. I made sure I got piss drunk off of Miller Lites a few times before I made my allegiance with Bud Light. I used to like the Daily Show back when Kilborn was the host but I really cant stand Stewart at all. I think you have to look at the Glen Beck show much like you look at the Daily show. They’re both entrainment.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:45 AM   #78
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Yeah I understand exactly what you are saying, and you’ve obviously watched his show several times and decided that you didn’t like it for yourself.

I like The Colbert Report, but I can’t stand The Daily Show. I like Beck, I hate O’Riliey. I like Berman, I hate Kornhizer. I like Anheuser, I hate Miller. I completely understand personal taste like/dislikes, but I feel like a lot of people don’t like Beck without ever giving him a shot first and make up their mind from a few clips they saw. I made sure I got piss drunk off of Miller Lites a few times before I made my allegiance with Bud Light. I used to like the Daily Show back when Kilborn was the host but I really cant stand Stewart at all. I think you have to look at the Glen Beck show much like you look at the Daily show. They’re both entrainment.
Well see I dont think you can compare the two...Unless your saying Beck is a comedy show...which then you can and then I agree. Platform and presentation is different.

Now if you want compare to Olberman to Beck that is more true comparison.

As for Colbert...lol...that guy is the man. I watch him religiously..well should I use religiously in this debate when talking about the Cult of Beck? Pun intended? Anyways Daily Show is very good too, but Colbert is presentation of look through the bullsh*t on both sides show is very good and really what the political media needed in this time of extreme polarization between the 2 sides.

As we talk about this, though, it is always important to look at context and forums when any media presenting its news and opinions...because after all its politics. What tics me off are the people who simply agree without thinking. I tend to see and hear this more from the right than the left.
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Sounds like the left and Al Gore on Global warming.
Did you happen to notice the summer weather on the East Coast this year? In many areas it was the hottest summer ever recorded.

Ever.

Take your head out of the sand. Global warming is a scientific fact.

Unfortunately major corporate polluters are spending truckloads of money in an attempt to discredit the science. It's criminal behavior and you shouldn't support it if you have any respect for the environment.
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The evidence is starting to pile up.
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Did you happen to notice the summer weather on the East Coast this year? In many areas it was the hottest summer ever recorded.

Ever.

Take your head out of the sand. Global warming is a scientific fact.

Unfortunately major corporate polluters are spending truckloads of money in an attempt to discredit the science. It's criminal behavior and you shouldn't support it if you have any respect for the environment.
Can not the same be said of the extreme cold weather in the same area last winter?
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I don't accept Global Climate Change as a thing that mankind has caused and is causing.

However, certainly Global Warming is a misnomer, because it is more that the whole climate is changing (as it has from the beginning, before Science could effectively measure it). That does lead to more extremes both hot and cold weather related.
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Can not the same be said of the extreme cold weather in the same area last winter?

It wasn't extreme cold.

It was extreme snow and that is also caused by global warming.

Here is an article from Time magazine.

Snowstorm: East Coast Blizzard Tied to Climate Change - TIME
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It's funny how people tend to conflate global warming with an increase in tempartures.

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It's funny how people tend to conflate global warming with an increase in temperatures.

I'm trying to up my post count today, sorry.
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I don't accept Global Climate Change as a thing that mankind has caused and is causing.

However, certainly Global Warming is a misnomer, because it is more that the whole climate is changing (as it has from the beginning, before Science could effectively measure it). That does lead to more extremes both hot and cold weather related.
You don't accept it?

When you burn a hole in the atmosphere which is something that has never happened before you won't get both extremes. The cycle will be broken.

There will only be one extreme.
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Didn't we have a global warming thread?

Data is piling up that some type of climate change is occuring. IMHO - based on lots of reading over the past years trying to discern the "truth" - data is inconclusive, at best, in tying humanity's actions to the causation of the climate change.

It is such a politicized subject that truly objective and balanced information is hard to find. Each side tends to present facts that support their opinions and no real critical analysis is done. Much of the research and testing done is not goal neutral but, rather, done by scientists who are being paid to find certain conclusions - on both sides of the issue.

So much statistical BS out there and very little critical thinking.
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I don't accept the principle that man's actions alone and in isolation cause a dramatic shift in a complex environment made up of billions of interacting particles. Nor do I accept as a valid premise that a man driving a 25mpg car has done more to save this vast environment than a man driving a 15mpg car, when every day a single jet flying overhead will use more aviation fuel in a single trip than a 10mpg difference will use in a year or 2. Instead, we have pop stars flying from concert to concert telling the "normal" folk how to save the earth as they light off pyrotechnics which again burn more energy, and cause more polluting in a single event than an urban mother with 2 kids will use in a month.

Bottomline, fear laced with a limited knowledge, and fueled by base scientific "proof", leads to poor education, and even worse policy.

Is the climate changing, absolutely. does a recycled plastic bottle affect it? Drop a tiny grain of sand in the ocean, and tell me if you managed to stop Earl?
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Which would then mean I could base an entire religion around it, as has been done so many times throughout history. Like I said, I'm happy for other people to believe in these things if it helps them cope... whatever works. Just keep your crazy out of the government, thanks...
Beck is what he is. Sounds to me like the rally was positive event for those that participated.

The problem with the bolded statement is that the Founding Fathers were "crazy" and they believed (as do over 90% of Americans) that the basis for our unalienable rights is from God, not other men or "government". Very important distinction.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Most Americans Believe in Higher Power, Poll Finds - washingtonpost.com=

I know the problem the non-religious have with those who are religious is when they carry their desire to "save" everyone to extremes and try to force their beliefs on others. I understand and completely agree with the non-religious on that. However, those who believe (myself included) have a problem with being characterized as believing in "fairy tales" or just flat out being "crazy". The religion issue is always a very touchy subject for most and it is often brought to extremes by those on the fringes.
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Funny, much like Beck himself this thread is all over the place and not making much sense.
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