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Old 09-08-2010, 03:03 PM   #31
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Well, I am not generally an advocate of such things but if we did, would muslims then conclude that it was just a small violent faction of Americans responsible and not the majority who are peace loving?
Would you conclude that Iran and its people? Talked to a friend of a friend several times who has been and lived in Iran and said a strong majority of Iranians are not only peace loving, but enjoy western culture. They understand its politics which divide the governments of the us and iran. He says its more obivious with the 30 and under crowd. This guy is not middle eastern or persian either, pale irish decent...its funny how media can twist sh*t
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:14 PM   #32
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How come the press and the left is all of a sudden so worried about pissing off Muslims but had no problem pissing them off any time they could make Bush look bad?
You know FD, each time I see you write posts like this I feel that this isn't how you truly feel, like you do this more because you have a reputation as a crazy right wing lover to live up to. You can't actually believe half the stuff you type do you?
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:24 PM   #33
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Would you conclude that Iran and its people? Talked to a friend of a friend several times who has been and lived in Iran and said a strong majority of Iranians are not only peace loving, but enjoy western culture. They understand its politics which divide the governments of the us and iran. He says its more obivious with the 30 and under crowd. This guy is not middle eastern or persian either, pale irish decent...its funny how media can twist sh*t
what is the question?
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This has nothing to do with Bush, Obama, Clinton, Reagan, McKinley, Hayes, Filmore or any other President
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:30 PM   #35
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There's clearly been a backlash of violence surrounding the mosque controversy.
Got it.
I think you can probably look for more of it, and it's hard for me to believe that was not a consideration to those that contrived the notion to build it there. Kind of surprising.........
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what is the question?
"it was just a small violent faction of Americans responsible and not the majority who are peace loving?"

you previous statement about shouldnt muslim understand its not a true representation of our country. Im saying their is misrepresentation here at home as well of muslims abroad.
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So your saying that Bush did not ask the press to hold stories for safty reasons that they ran anyways?
Actually no, what I am saying is that I believe that you actually don't believe the crazy shit that you post on the boards. That you have a reputation as a crazy right winger to live up to and that's why you write what you write.

There's no way in hell you can read what I just wrote and infer that I must be some kind of Bush/Obama/anybody else in politics lover. I don't even mention them. They have nothing to do with this post, or this thread, for that matter.
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Got it.
I think you can probably look for more of it, and it's hard for me to believe that was not a consideration to those that contrived the notion to build it there. Kind of surprising.........
Comes with the territory I guess. Would it really matter where they built it though? It's not like anti-Muslim sentiment is something new in this country post 9/11.
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Comes with the territory I guess. Would it really matter where they built it though? It's not like anti-Muslim sentiment is something new in this country post 9/11.
I don't think it would be as popularized in........Rancho Cucamonga, rather than 9/11ville
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I don't think it would be as popularized in........Rancho Cucamonga, rather than 9/11ville
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Well, I am not generally an advocate of such things but if we did, would muslims then conclude that it was just a small violent faction of Americans responsible and not the majority who are peace loving?

Are we talking rouge American terrorist militiamen attacking Mecca? They shouldn't get mad at all Americans but at the very least they should be able to invade the states where these men came from.
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dont american citizens who view the koran as vile and hate filled have a right to express their feelings? in america?

while their feelings might be misguided to seemingly most of us here (their disdain towards minority extreme militants colors thier overly broad disdain for all islams) dont they have a right to express their feelings in a civil and organized manner?

the 1st amendment, freedom of speech and expression in this country wasnt put in place to protect the right of americans to say "yahoo for the US!" but to protect the rights and viewpoints of the fringe minority groups to organize and express themselves in a civil manner.

i think when the SC looks at what is protected speech vs hate speech they look towards, in part, the intent of the speaker. thats to say, the court wont block someone from saying something only based upon another persons unreasonable reaction.

if i burn the koran for the purpose of symbolizing my dislike for its teachings and not to incite a riot or jihad, i feel like i have that right in america. the fact that a group of people might be hyper-sensitive to my act shouldnt allow the courts or gov't to preclude me from doing so.

to decide what is and what isnt protected speech based upon others hyper-sensitive reactions would leave a mute world.

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Probably because the majority of Muslims are peaceful and denounce the those who practice radical forms of Islam like those who acted in 9/11.

I can't wait till people start burning the Bible again.[/quote

Didn't know they stopped.
Oh oh, here's what I meant; I can't wait till people start publicly gathering people together to burn the Bible again in the name of Christianity being a bunch of horse poo because Christianity is a dangerous religion with dangerous people. There we go.
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dont american citizens who view the koran as vile and hate filled have a right to express their feelings? in america?

while their feelings might be misguided to seemingly most of us here (their disdain towards minority extreme militants colors thier overly broad disdain for all islams) dont they have a right to express their feelings in a civil and organized manner?

the 1st amendment, freedom of speech and expression in this country wasnt put in place to protect the right of americans to say "yahoo for the US!" but to protect the rights and viewpoints of the fringe minority groups to organize and express themselves in a civil manner.

i think when the SC looks at what is protected speech vs hate speech they look towards, in part, the intent of the speaker. thats to say, the court wont block someone from saying something only based upon another persons unreasonable reaction.

if i burn the koran for the purpose of symbolizing my dislike for its teachings and not to incite a riot or jihad, i feel like i have that right in america. the fact that a group of people might be hyper-sensitive to my act shouldnt allow the courts or gov't to preclude me from doing so.

to decide what is and what isnt protected speech based upon others hyper-sensitive reactions would leave a mute world.

idk thoo i spent most of my time smoking tie stick and bowling at the ROTC. i dont really remember much.
I don't think anyone here is arguing whether or not they have a right to, they certainly do. But the fact that they are doing it in the name of Islam being bad and showing their disdain for radical Muslims, they fail to see that they just come off looking like a bunch of stupid radical Christians.

But I read an article about this on Yahoo News and a user comment on there said it best: "If radical Christians want to piss off radical Muslims, why intervene? Let them wipe each other off the face of the earth so regular people can have some peace and quiet."
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Of course not right off hand but I don't think anyone was extremely comfortable with Islam for a good time after 9/11 happened. But it helps that a lot of building bridges and investigation went on after that. I mean the whole, "you hurt me, so I'm gonna hurt you back" thing is so Neanderthal, especially after so much work has been done to get Americans and Muslims to come to terms and understand what happened in terms of 9/11.
Neanderthal or no, what terms would you suggest for dealing with radical sons if islam?
AND they do themselves NO good service in building a Mosque near the 9/11 site. No good can come of that. AND they knew that in advance but are trying to do it anyway. You have to be responsible for your own actions......even stupid ones. If they look to assimilate in a meaningful, peaceful way that contributes positively to society.....this isn't it
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