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Old 09-08-2010, 04:32 PM   #46
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p.s. this thread needs a TTE sighting right about now... Politics threads have been eerily quiet lately..
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:34 PM   #47
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BTW.......it's Quran
not Koran as in Korea
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I don't think anyone here is arguing whether or not they have a right to, they certainly do. But the fact that they are doing it in the name of Islam being bad and showing their disdain for radical Muslims, they fail to see that they just come off looking like a bunch of stupid radical Christians.

But I read an article about this on Yahoo News and a user comment on there said it best: "If radical Christians want to piss off radical Muslims, why intervene? Let them wipe each other off the face of the earth so regular people can have some peace and quiet."
That's the sad irony. They are acting like the Taliban to show how much they hate the Taliban.
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Neanderthal or no, what terms would you suggest for dealing with radical sons if islam?
AND they do themselves NO good service in building a Mosque near the 9/11 site. No good can come of that. AND they knew that in advance but are trying to do it anyway. You have to be responsible for your own actions......even stupid ones. If they look to assimilate in a meaningful, peaceful way that contributes positively to society.....this isn't it
I'm not saying building a Mosque near the 9/11 site is in a good taste but just like Over said about the Koran burning, they certainly have the right to do so. Albeit wrong or right. And you have no idea what those people building in Mosque have in store in terms of "good service". They might surprise the community and actually do some charitable work towards NYC.

Or they could just be a sleeper cell like everyone expects them to be. Whatever. *Shrugs*
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Are we talk rouge American terrorist militiamen attacking Mecca? They shouldn't get mad at all Americans but at the very least they should be able to invade the states where these men came from.
They could.....try
AND you can rest assured, if "they" were a big enough dog, they would. And maybe they are. They are good at that sort of thing........
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They could.....try
AND you can rest assured, if "they" were a big enough dog, they would. And maybe they are. They are good at that sort of thing........

You don't have to be top dog to do damage....No men are more dangerous than those who have nothing to lose.

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It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.
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You don't have to be top dog to do damage....No men are more dangerous than those who have nothing to lose.
...supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
I'm good with that, what's your plan?
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It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.
The image of that is pretty funny, actually.
Not sure about the book burning thing as well. No good can come from that.
If they had any concern for what anyone else really thought....especially with the NATIONWIDE blow up over the issue, they would be better served building their.....reading room, library, community center, munitions laboratory...elsewhere.
It seems being a good neighbor is not part of the equation, or at least concern for what their neighbors think?
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...supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
I'm good with that, what's your plan?
I'd start with opening a genuine dialog with people and stop supporting tyrannical/dictatorial regimes. Everyone already knows about the stick in my hand, I just need to show them I got a carrot in the other hand too.

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I'd start with opening a genuine dialog with people and stop supporting tyrannical/dictatorial regimes. Everyone already knows about my stick in my hand, I just need to show them I got a carrot in the other hand too.

First thing is first though, I got to get the keys to this country. Vote for me!

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You don't have to be top dog to do damage....No men are more dangerous than those who have nothing to lose.
And men who believe they gain heaven by violent acts are even more dangerous than those with nothing to lose.

Great Sun Tzu quote BTW. Problem with the Sun Tzu view in the case of battling fundamentalist Islam is that you cannot break this enemy's "resistance" because it consists of a religious obligation to either kill or subjugate all non-Muslims.

To be clear, I am not stating that all Muslims believe this. There are many peaceful Muslims who reject the fundamentalist ideology just as many mainline Christians reject radical Christian beliefs (burning Qurans, murdering abortion doctors, protesting at soldiers funerals, etc.). However, the problem worldwide is that there's a significant percentage of Muslims who follow the fundamentalist ideology.

The burning of the Quran is wrong and shouldn't be done, it's disrespectful to all Muslims. The same as buring Bibles is disrespectful to Christians. This display will accomplish nothing positive. However, as U.S. citizens (of all faiths) we have to either support the 1st Ammendment or not, no matter how deplorable the speech may be. I'm sickened by the thought of a picture of a crucifix in a bottle of urine being on display as art (and the NEA paying for it), I'm disgusted and angered at a U.S. flag being burned, I'm disgusted and angered if a Bible was burned. But I won't threaten, or attempt murder on those who do such things. If any violence comes to the DWOC people, it needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as a hate crime.
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And men who believe they gain heaven by violent acts are even more dangerous than those with nothing to lose.

Great Sun Tzu quote BTW. Problem with the Sun Tzu view in the case of battling fundamentalist Islam is that you cannot break this enemy's "resistance" because it consists of a religious obligation to either kill or subjugate all non-Muslims.

To be clear, I am not stating that all Muslims believe this. There are many peaceful Muslims who reject the fundamentalist ideology just as many mainline Christians reject radical Christian beliefs (burning Qurans, murdering abortion doctors, protesting at soldiers funerals, etc.). However, the problem worldwide is that there's a significant percentage of Muslims who follow the fundamentalist ideology.

The burning of the Quran is wrong and shouldn't be done, it's disrespectful to all Muslims. The same as buring Bibles is disrespectful to Christians. This display will accomplish nothing positive. However, as U.S. citizens (of all faiths) we have to either support the 1st Ammendment or not, no matter how deplorable the speech may be. I'm sickened by the thought of a picture of a crucifix in a bottle of urine being on display as art (and the NEA paying for it), I'm disgusted and angered at a U.S. flag being burned, I'm disgusted and angered if a Bible was burned. But I won't threaten, or attempt murder on those who do such things. If any violence comes to the DWOC people, it needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as a hate crime.
Yes, men who think they're heaven bound if they blow themselves up in the name of Islam are the most dangerous. The question is whether there is anything you can do to deter such thought without military action?


Quantify significant percentage of Muslims and many mainline Christians.

You will see Muslims burn the American flag in displeasure but you will never ever see them burn the Bible.
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Hmmmm..........Lord Saden1???
Come on, think big, think First Emperor of the United States of America!
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Come on, think big, think First Emperor of the United States of America!
You must have Obama and Nancy Pelosi working with you in the shadows.
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