DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day

saden1 · 09-07-2010, 08:58 PM

Dove World Outreach Center has decided to hold a nice commiseration event on September 11th that involves burning Qur'ans. If they go through with it how long do you guys think these nice people have before they meet their maker?

p.s. Their mortgage lender has called in the balance of their loan and their property insurance has been cancelled by their insurer.

Hog1 · 09-07-2010, 09:17 PM

That could get uglier than the Redskin tailgate party this weekend......

Schneed10 · 09-07-2010, 09:31 PM

Yes DWOC, you have the right to free speech. That doesn't make expressing yourself in this way a good idea. At all.

FRPLG · 09-07-2010, 09:42 PM

What a bunch of ignorant losers.

drew54 · 09-07-2010, 09:49 PM

This is one of those free speech issues. The same as the freedom of religion. Our constitution will allow you to do whatever you want as long as you are not hurting yourself, anyone else, or their property.

If you own the Qua'an, you are free to burn it. If you own the land you are free to build a place of worship there. If you own the flag, you can burn it too. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree with it. I sure don't, but who am I to take away your constitutional rights.

Basically I think extremism of all kinds leads to nothing but problems. What I want to know is how do we get to this point nine years later. Was this happening in 2001? Is this just media talking heads whipping up fear and feeding it to those willing to listen. Our nation is so messed up right now sometimes I wonder how much worse does it have to get before people snap out of it.

Very interesting about the insurance being canceled. One can only sit back and wait for this to unfold.

Lotus · 09-07-2010, 11:05 PM

Sure, they are entitled to do so under freedom of speech.

That doesn't change the fact that this is the dumbest, most counterproductive idea that I've heard in a long time.

Nice "outreach," Dove.

tryfuhl · 09-07-2010, 11:12 PM

Teaching tolerance, one crispy Quran at a time.

over the mountain · 09-08-2010, 10:33 AM

there is a distinction with what is constitutionally protected speech and what is not.

burning a cross is not protected speech, it is hate speech.

the classic yelling "FIRE!" in a movie theater is not protected speech

burning the american flag is protected speech.

i guess the burning of the Koran falls somewhere in the penumbra of the gray area betwen burning a cross and burning a flag.

this could be interesting for con law scholars.

drew54 · 09-08-2010, 10:55 AM

Good point about the hate speech. I wonder if since they own the books, and it is private property if that applies.

SmootSmack · 09-08-2010, 10:58 AM

I'm burning all of my wife's bottles of Dove bodywash in protest

BleedBurgundy · 09-08-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm burning all of my wife's bottles of Dove bodywash in protest

What, your wife replaces half-empty bottles with more and more too?

BleedBurgundy · 09-08-2010, 11:07 AM

Seriously, this is a stupid, stupid idea. I think my views on religion have been pretty well established, but there is no good that can come of this. What exactly are they hoping to accomplish? Let everyone know that they don't like Islam? Ok, done. This is just going to provoke more violence.

SmootSmack · 09-08-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

So this guy wants to burn some Koran's and all I see are people talking about how this will promote violence. They want to build a Mosque and no one talks about fear of violence. HMMMMM I wonder why that is.

Um....what?

CRedskinsRule · 09-08-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

So this guy wants to burn some Koran's and all I see are people talking about how this will promote violence. They want to build a Mosque and no one talks about fear of violence. HMMMMM I wonder why that is.

MAYBE because one is a non aggresive, standard approach to congregational worship, and the other is an aggresive and intolerant act of violence against a book which is considered sacred to millions + of non aggressive members of a recognized religious group? Maybe?

saden1 · 09-08-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um....what?

I think what he is saying, don't quote me on it, is "Can one obtain an on land fishing licence to fish for Muslims?"

09-07-2010, 08:58 PM	#1
saden1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 10,069	DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Dove World Outreach Center has decided to hold a nice commiseration event on September 11th that involves burning Qur'ans. If they go through with it how long do you guys think these nice people have before they meet their maker? p.s. Their mortgage lender has called in the balance of their loan and their property insurance has been cancelled by their insurer.

09-07-2010, 09:17 PM	#2
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day That could get uglier than the Redskin tailgate party this weekend...... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

09-07-2010, 09:31 PM	#3
Schneed10 Captain Kirk Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 38 Posts: 10,219	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Yes DWOC, you have the right to free speech. That doesn't make expressing yourself in this way a good idea. At all. __________________ Redskins Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

09-07-2010, 09:42 PM	#4
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 38 Posts: 10,164	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day What a bunch of ignorant losers.

09-07-2010, 09:49 PM	#5
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 34 Posts: 1,324	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day This is one of those free speech issues. The same as the freedom of religion. Our constitution will allow you to do whatever you want as long as you are not hurting yourself, anyone else, or their property. If you own the Qua'an, you are free to burn it. If you own the land you are free to build a place of worship there. If you own the flag, you can burn it too. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree with it. I sure don't, but who am I to take away your constitutional rights. Basically I think extremism of all kinds leads to nothing but problems. What I want to know is how do we get to this point nine years later. Was this happening in 2001? Is this just media talking heads whipping up fear and feeding it to those willing to listen. Our nation is so messed up right now sometimes I wonder how much worse does it have to get before people snap out of it. Very interesting about the insurance being canceled. One can only sit back and wait for this to unfold. __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

09-07-2010, 11:05 PM	#6
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Sure, they are entitled to do so under freedom of speech. That doesn't change the fact that this is the dumbest, most counterproductive idea that I've heard in a long time. Nice "outreach," Dove. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

09-07-2010, 11:12 PM	#7
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 33 Posts: 12,514	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Teaching tolerance, one crispy Quran at a time. __________________ http://www.twitter.com/RedskinsRT

09-08-2010, 10:33 AM	#8
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,750	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day there is a distinction with what is constitutionally protected speech and what is not. burning a cross is not protected speech, it is hate speech. the classic yelling "FIRE!" in a movie theater is not protected speech burning the american flag is protected speech. i guess the burning of the Koran falls somewhere in the penumbra of the gray area betwen burning a cross and burning a flag. this could be interesting for con law scholars. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

09-08-2010, 10:55 AM	#9
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 34 Posts: 1,324	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Good point about the hate speech. I wonder if since they own the books, and it is private property if that applies. __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

09-08-2010, 10:58 AM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day I'm burning all of my wife's bottles of Dove bodywash in protest __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-08-2010, 11:07 AM	#12
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day Seriously, this is a stupid, stupid idea. I think my views on religion have been pretty well established, but there is no good that can come of this. What exactly are they hoping to accomplish? Let everyone know that they don't like Islam? Ok, done. This is just going to provoke more violence. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

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