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Old 02-24-2011, 04:05 PM   #91
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Well that's the justification. My point is that both sides of the aisle will bring up issues that take up resources and time, and don't focus on bigger issues. The only reason Obama is dealing with gay marriage, is because your side spent a lot of time and resources to make it illegal.

Just trying to prove the point that for every complain you may have about the left, I can bring up something similar about the right.

This is why I hate politics in general and I am very disillusioned at the political system in this country. Both sides get on their party agendas and barely get anything done.
Thats really my problem with the whole thing. He is not dealing with the issue he is just saying that his administration will ignore the law that he swore to protect. If he thinks its that big of an issue then get the laws over turned. I personally don't care either way.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:21 PM   #92
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So what's with all these rumors now that Ghadafi's been shot, possibly suicide? Any substance to these rumors?
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:32 PM   #93
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when in doubt blame Bin Laden

Gadhafi Forces Strike Back at Libya Uprising - ABC News
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:37 PM   #94
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So what's with all these rumors now that Ghadafi's been shot, possibly suicide? Any substance to these rumors?
Last I heard that rumor is false.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:53 PM   #95
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Just saw this....

Amidst Rumors That Gaddafi’s Been Shot, Swiss Freeze His Assets - Agustino Fontevecchia - Moral Hazard - Forbes

Then again there were rumors before that he was in Venezuela.
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Old 02-24-2011, 05:03 PM   #96
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I like Gadhldi reasoning on why exactly this is happening:

He blamed the revolt on bin Laden and teenagers hopped up on hallucinogenic pills given to them "in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe."


Yeah your losing control of the country due to teenagers tripping.
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Old 02-24-2011, 05:09 PM   #97
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I like Gadhldi reasoning on why exactly this is happening:

He blamed the revolt on bin Laden and teenagers hopped up on hallucinogenic pills given to them "in their coffee with milk, like Nescafe."


Yeah your losing control of the country due to teenagers tripping.
yeah that gave me a laugh...

wish they served coffee like that around here
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Maybe thats why Star Bucks is doing so good.
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Old 02-25-2011, 10:57 AM   #100
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How fantastic is it to see these countries making changes? I love that we're seeing these types of changes from the people that live there rather than going in and forcing it down their throat.

Not only are these people ready for a change, since they've done it themselves they're going to work even harder to make sure it sticks and makes their country better.
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How fantastic is it to see these countries making changes? I love that we're seeing these types of changes from the people that live there rather than going in and forcing it down their throat.

Not only are these people ready for a change, since they've done it themselves they're going to work even harder to make sure it sticks and makes their country better.
Lets just hope these changes are for the good and don't turn out like Iran did back in the 80's (I think it was the 80s).
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Lets just hope these changes are for the good and don't turn out like Iran did back in the 80's (I think it was the 80s).
Iran overthrew the Shah in 1979 through a movement led more by religious leaders and less by democratic leaders. The slogan of the Iranian revolution was "vilayat-i-faqih," or "let the religious leaders rule." Given that the leaders of movements in places like Tunisia and Egypt have hoisted the flag of democracy rather than religion, it seems reasonable to expect that the revolutions will turn out differently.

Besides it's not 1979 any more. There are plenty of folks in Iran today who wish that their revolution had worked out differently.
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Lets just hope these changes are for the good and don't turn out like Iran did back in the 80's (I think it was the 80s).
Good point. It is a bit of a concern in places like Yemen, where Al Qaeda has a presence there and could take advantage of the instability to take over. Although, I feel that the rhetoric behind these protests are not in line with Islamic fundamentalism.
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Does anyone else find it amusing that Iraqis are protesting for change/freedom now given that we brought them change/freedom back in 2003?
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:50 PM   #105
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I was reading about the Yugoslav Wars recently and about the student led movement that contributed to Milosevic's ultimate surrender and two things stand out to me.

One, that they were doing much of what the youth in those countries today are doing. But without the benefits of social networking. And two, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the CIA were covertly assisting these students with their overthrows much like they have in years and decades past

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Does it make sense for the U.S. to do so? I could understand Libya a little bit but Egypt/Jordan/Yemen where they have a friendlier regimes in place?
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