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Old 04-08-2011, 01:07 PM   #46
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If the goverment shuts down why do national parks have to close? Do we really need someone working for people to enjoy the outdoors.
National parks require things like maintenance and security for people and animals.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:27 PM   #47
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To hell with those rich shits. They'll still get paid, but all of us contractors get dick while they play their game. They'll still get their perks while the federal employees hope they get paid for their time out. I hate politics, and the games that go along with government.
Not all contractors. One of the companies that contracts to us is going to pay up to a week's worth of salary for any employee affected by a shutdown.
They're not a small company, either.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:37 PM   #48
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That's good stuff, a week makes a hell of a difference. Mine just sent an email telling us that we need to turn in our time sheets today and made sure that we didnt forget we wouldn't get paid, lol. I sure hope we get through this soon.

My yard is going to be beautiful because of all this !
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That's good stuff, a week makes a hell of a difference. Mine just sent an email telling us that we need to turn in our time sheets today and made sure that we didnt forget we wouldn't get paid, lol. I sure hope we get through this soon.

My yard is going to be beautiful because of all this !

Iam assuming yo ucan use vacation time...correct?

My job won't be affected by the shutdown, which is good, my heart goes out to those that are not as lucky.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:51 PM   #50
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Yeah I can but I'm gonna hold onto it. If we get to a week in then I'm gonna go into it. I'm sitting on 47 hours right now. I'm usually a very optomistic person but this shit is really starting to scare me now.
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I agree. Compensating soldiers with an IOU to stare the barrel of the enemy gun seems OK to me. Carry on.
I don't see why they should be classified differently than any other government employee. No pay for everyone!
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I don't see why they should be classified differently than any other government employee. No pay for everyone!
That's the spirit.
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I don't see why they should be classified differently than any other government employee. No pay for everyone!
The 20 yr. olds in Iraq / Afghanistan with a wife and/or child at home that are worried about car payments, house/rent payments, food, utility payments I'm sure agree with you.

I wonder why the President, Congress, and also welfare recepients still get their checks while young military families living paycheck to paycheck, with their lives on the line for the defense of this nation, see a disruption in pay.....when that issue could be fixed with a stroke of Obama's pen (see previous gov't shut-downs). Obama is the C in C and uses these kids as pawns in a politcal game....Disgusting!
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The woods need maintenance? Thats new. You mean we turned them into parks so they now need maintenance. Security? are parks that dangerous? Sounds like the federal government has turned something free and cheap into something expensive to run. I know it sound dumb but I'm trying to make the point of how we drive up the cost of even the simple stuff.
Yes, the woods need maintenance in terms of tree health care. Then there are the roads and trails through the woods. There are also efforts to prevent the poaching of endangered species.

As for security, perhaps you are unaware that drug gangs have been turning some national parks into marijuana farms. Sometimes these gangs are armed. There are a million other things that could happen.

Notice that the government did not create any of these problems. Government is required to deal with them, however.
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The 20 yr. olds in Iraq / Afghanistan with a wife and/or child at home that are worried about car payments, house/rent payments, food, utility payments I'm sure agree with you.

I wonder why the President, Congress, and also welfare recepients still get their checks while young military families living paycheck to paycheck, with their lives on the line for the defense of this nation, see a disruption in pay.....when that issue could be fixed with a stroke of Obama's pen (see previous gov't shut-downs). Obama is the C in C and uses these kids as pawns in a politcal game....Disgusting!
I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that Capitol Hill people of every political stripe are also using them as political pawns because they are being driven by ideology rather than substantive issues.
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The 20 yr. olds in Iraq / Afghanistan with a wife and/or child at home that are worried about car payments, house/rent payments, food, utility payments I'm sure agree with you.

I wonder why the President, Congress, and also welfare recepients still get their checks while young military families living paycheck to paycheck, with their lives on the line for the defense of this nation, see a disruption in pay.....when that issue could be fixed with a stroke of Obama's pen (see previous gov't shut-downs). Obama is the C in C and uses these kids as pawns in a politcal game....Disgusting!
As do the 22+ yr. olds who work for the government who may or may not have bills to pay.
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Well my contractor told me not to come in on Monday !

I'm pretty sure there will not be a shut down but IF there is. I'll be getting my Black Ops up !!!!
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As do the 22+ yr. olds who work for the government who may or may not have bills to pay.
The 22+ yr. olds that work in other areas of the gov't don't face the choice of getting shot at or going to Leavenworth. Both Reagan and Clinton made sure the military did not see a pay disruption in the last two shut-downs.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that Capitol Hill people of every political stripe are also using them as political pawns because they are being driven by ideology rather than substantive issues.
If they want to fight over funding for Planned Parenthood vs. Defense acquisitions fine, I get it. But as I mentioned, all it takes is a stroke of the pen by Obama to take the soldiers timely pay out of it.
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The 22+ yr. olds that work in other areas of the gov't don't face the choice of getting shot at or going to Leavenworth. Both Reagan and Clinton made sure the military did not see a pay disruption in the last two shut-downs.
What Clinton and his predecessors did is relevant. What is relevant is that the 20 yr. olds waging war will still not have to worry about where their 3 meals a day will come from and where to sleep. Let's share the sacrifice.

All citizens employees are created equal and if the republicans think otherwise the fallout will be their fault. I suspect the republicans will fold and make a deal but then again their level of retardedness can be beyond comprehension sometimes so you never know. It will be very interesting to see what happens...whatever happens I will be a happy man.
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