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Old 06-27-2011, 02:46 PM   #136
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Nasty rumors floating around about Rick Perry. If he jumps in, I'm sure it will come up whether it's true or not.

So the Obama campaign just released a statement attacking Michele Bachmann's voting record. Nothing big about that except they didn't do that for either Romney or Pawlenty
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Nasty rumors floating around about Rick Perry. If he jumps in, I'm sure it will come up whether it's true or not.

So the Obama campaign just released a statement attacking Michele Bachmann's voting record. Nothing big about that except they didn't do that for either Romney or Pawlenty
The gay rumor, or something else?

Not sure if the Obama strategy is the right thing, better to let the far lefties (or the DNC controlled media MSNBC, CBS, ABC J/K) do the hit pieces on Bachmann. Could backfire with independent/moderate women.
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The gay rumor, or something else?

Not sure if the Obama strategy is the right thing, better to let the far lefties (or the DNC controlled media MSNBC, CBS, ABC J/K) do the hit pieces on Bachmann. Could backfire with independent/moderate women.
It only backfires if it's dirty false information. Bachmann is a treasure trove of nutso nuggets. I know one thing for sure, team Obama is interested in hyping and raising her profile in the hopes of running against her in the general election. If they can't have Palin, Bachmann will do just fine.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:08 PM   #139
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I think they'd much rather have Palin, but yeah Bachmann will do fine. As long as they attack her voting record, which is fair game and above the belt, it's all good.
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Bachmann had a few good interviews on Sunday, in that sense that she didn't say anything off the wall or controversial. She'll have to answer for her record on farm subsidies and earmarks, which is counter to her small government Tea Party message, but any pol worth their salt should be able to spin that.

If Rick Perry doesn't jump in, I could really see her and Romney going down to the wire. No one's feeling Tim Pawlenty and Jon Huntsman is Romney-lite.
From what I have read the media is twisting around what I think an earmark is in the first place. She asked for funds from her state for her state. Most earmarks I hear of is someone wanting federal funds to pay for their state pet projects. You don't here people calling them earmarks if someone ask for federal funds to pay for federal projects.
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I know one thing for sure, team Obama is interested in hyping and raising her profile in the hopes of running against her in the general election. If they can't have Palin, Bachmann will do just fine.
Agreed. I would love for Bachmann to win the primary.

The Republican party would get badly embarrassed in the general election.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:27 PM   #142
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The only problem, as one eagle-eyed reader notes: Waterloo's John Wayne was not the beloved movie star, but rather John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer.

Mrs. Bachmann grew up in Waterloo, and used the town as the backdrop for her campaign announcement, where she told Fox News: "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too." (Someone has already posted the clip to YouTube under the name BachmannLovesGacy)

John Wayne, the movie legend, is in fact from Iowa and the John Wayne birthplace is a celebrated landmark only it's in Winterset, which is a nearly three hour drive away from Waterloo.
You'd think that the woman would know which John Wayne came from her own home town. It's not so much the gaffe, but it's her own hometown and still doesn't even know.


If they are this stupid, would you want them having the finger on a nuclear button or making crucial economic/foreign policies? Is this all that America has to offer? This is sad.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:47 PM   #143
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From what I have read the media is twisting around what I think an earmark is in the first place. She asked for funds from her state for her state. Most earmarks I hear of is someone wanting federal funds to pay for their state pet projects. You don't here people calling them earmarks if someone ask for federal funds to pay for federal projects.
You're right in the sense that all earmarks have been portrayed as evil and that's just not the case. Bachmann's particular problem is that she guided nearly $250K in farm subsidies to her father-in-law's farm, which she's also a partner. I think somewhere in the neighborhood of $260K. Her filings show that a small portion of that may have gone to her. Nothing illegal or improper happened there, I'm sure. But she's just not the poster child for small government and fiscal responsibility that she so adamantly claims.

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Sounding more and more like Bachmann is basically the female Rick Santorum. If so, she's lost my support.
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FACT CHECK: Bachmann bomblets raising eyebrows - Yahoo! News


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Examining 24 of her statements, Politifact.com, the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking service of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times, found just one to be fully true and 17 to be false (seven of them "pants on fire" false). No other Republican candidate whose statements have been vigorously vetted matched that record of inaccuracy.

Wow, out of 24 statements, 17 of them are false...lol Who do these people hire to write their speeches?



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BACHMANN: "The farm is my father-in-law's farm. It's not my husband and my farm. It's my father-in-law's farm. And my husband and I have never gotten a penny of money from the farm." On "Fox News Sunday."

THE FACTS: In personal financial disclosure reports required annually from members of Congress, Bachmann reported that she holds an interest in a family farm in Independence, Wis., with her share worth between $100,000 and $250,000.
Bachmann giving subsidies to a farm she part owns. Nope, no conflict of interest there. Why are idiots voting for people like this again?
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Why are idiots voting for people like this again?
I'm assuming the "idiots" you mention voted for Obama too.

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Honestly, does anybody think Michele Bachmann has any chance of getting the GOP nomination? Why are we even bothering.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:49 PM   #148
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Honestly, does anybody think Michele Bachmann has any chance of getting the GOP nomination? Why are we even bothering.
12th mentioned the Obama campaign spent the time/effort to release a statement attacking her voting record. I don't think they'd do that if there wasn't some level of concern about her.

Not saying she'll get it, but she can't be discounted yet.
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I'm assuming the "idiots" you mention voted for Obama too.

PolitiFact | All statements involving Barack Obama

Yup. Those same idiots.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ge-donors-too/

Found this one to be very amusing. US politicians without a doubt believe the American people are stupid as hell and will beleive anything. Otherwise, why would you sit up there and blatantly lie like that?
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