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Old 08-12-2011, 07:16 PM   #181
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She can't be to dumb she a grad from William & Mary.
Never said she was dumb, just wide eyed, crazy, and spaced out.
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:08 AM   #182
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Bachmann is a smart woman, but politically stupid in my opinion. She really is going too hard to embrace the Christian Right at the wrong time. The CR has past its zenith of power. Very few moderates and more importantly, independents are going to vote for her because of that. Romney has the money, and that is the problem. Look at Iowa, and the faceoff at the county fair about if corporations are people. In his view he was right, and in fact some Supreme Court cases back him up,but the perception is that corporations are heartless money grubbing entities that are evil to the core. Isn't the man worth like over $150 million also??
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:17 AM   #183
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Yeah i think Palin is too smart to run. Sheís turned herself into a brand and part of that brand is acting foolish. She's making loot.

My preferred ticket is Romney Paul, and then Romney MB. At heart i think im a a little libertarianish but thats not what America needs right now. I heard David Kelly of jpmorgan compare the US debt debate and likewise economy to a fat man that needs to lose weight. A lot of people in the tea party just think you can cut spending and not raise revenues and that will right the ship. While I think we eventually need to dramatically cut spending and reduce taxes (particularly at the corporate level) you cant do it all at once after over indulging for the last 40+ years. A fat man still needs to eat, if you starve him youll end up killing him. I think Romney is the probably the most suited person of the 2 parties to lead the country into a healthier economic lifestyle through plans that are actually viable plus he will compromise when needed. Pair him up with a guy like Paul or girl like Bachmann and you plant the seeds for the Republican party to one day return to being fiscally conservative that so many have been calling for.

If Romney gets the presidential bid I think Paul, if willing, would make for a stronger ticket then Bachmann. Heís probably the smartest guy on stage and one of the most well spoken, he definitely knows more about politics then any other front runner, and heís appealing to lot of different people. A lot of liberals like him and I see him taking votes away (a couple) from Obama, while Bachmann doesnít take any. Evangelical Christens like him, although probably less then Bachmann. His main issues are his only issues; radical ideas like returning to the gold standard not raising the debt ceiling, although I think hes smart enough to promote these ideas I donít think he dumb enough to employee any of them recklessly. I think his hardest sell to neo-conservatives is his foreign policy, which is why a lot of liberals like him.

Either way I think you have to pair Romney with a libertarian-esque candidate or youre going to take a significant shot at Romneyís chances. Bachmann and Paul are the main 2 contenders and Bachmann is easy to make fun of, question and take serious. Paul made be hard to take serious at times but he has more conviction than anyone else and makes damn good points to all his arguments. Romney needs to team up with someone that inspires votes and energizes Republicans, because he doesnít by himself, Bachmann and Paul are probably the only 2 that would as VPís. Paul may steal a few votes from some liberals while Bachmann might just motivate liberals to vote against her instead of just sitting this one out since Obama sold out on them.

Also ive been going back and forth all day with who id rather do; SP or MB. Im going with Palin today and Bachmann in her prime. Special points for Bachmannís blue eye dark hair combo, my favorite combo on a chick.
We need Paul to implement those monetary policies of his if we are going to get back to any semblance of fiscal sanity. Printing more money to get out of debt is totally illogical, but it is what we have been doing since I have been on this earth and even before my time. Russia and China are mining gold like crazy. They know the shit is going to hit the fan soon, and some type of gold standard is going to be setup.
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most americans have that perception. and since most of the time perception is reality....let me ask you a question. over the last 3 years at my companies quarterly meetings, we have been told that we are doing better then we ever have. business is booming. ROC is hovering around 20%. which is pretty much unheard of. but yet every year we get a 2.3% raise. so does that sound right to you?
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Yeah i think Palin is too smart to run. Sheís turned herself into a brand and part of that brand is acting foolish. She's making loot.

My preferred ticket is Romney Paul, and then Romney MB. At heart i think im a a little libertarianish but thats not what America needs right now. I heard David Kelly of jpmorgan compare the US debt debate and likewise economy to a fat man that needs to lose weight. A lot of people in the tea party just think you can cut spending and not raise revenues and that will right the ship. While I think we eventually need to dramatically cut spending and reduce taxes (particularly at the corporate level) you cant do it all at once after over indulging for the last 40+ years. A fat man still needs to eat, if you starve him youll end up killing him. I think Romney is the probably the most suited person of the 2 parties to lead the country into a healthier economic lifestyle through plans that are actually viable plus he will compromise when needed. Pair him up with a guy like Paul or girl like Bachmann and you plant the seeds for the Republican party to one day return to being fiscally conservative that so many have been calling for.

If Romney gets the presidential bid I think Paul, if willing, would make for a stronger ticket then Bachmann. Heís probably the smartest guy on stage and one of the most well spoken, he definitely knows more about politics then any other front runner, and heís appealing to lot of different people. A lot of liberals like him and I see him taking votes away (a couple) from Obama, while Bachmann doesnít take any. Evangelical Christens like him, although probably less then Bachmann. His main issues are his only issues; radical ideas like returning to the gold standard not raising the debt ceiling, although I think hes smart enough to promote these ideas I donít think he dumb enough to employee any of them recklessly. I think his hardest sell to neo-conservatives is his foreign policy, which is why a lot of liberals like him.

Either way I think you have to pair Romney with a libertarian-esque candidate or youre going to take a significant shot at Romneyís chances. Bachmann and Paul are the main 2 contenders and Bachmann is easy to make fun of, question and take serious. Paul made be hard to take serious at times but he has more conviction than anyone else and makes damn good points to all his arguments. Romney needs to team up with someone that inspires votes and energizes Republicans, because he doesnít by himself, Bachmann and Paul are probably the only 2 that would as VPís. Paul may steal a few votes from some liberals while Bachmann might just motivate liberals to vote against her instead of just sitting this one out since Obama sold out on them.

Also ive been going back and forth all day with who id rather do; SP or MB. Im going with Palin today and Bachmann in her prime. Special points for Bachmannís blue eye dark hair combo, my favorite combo on a chick.
this made me LOL
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The Republican field of candidates is pathetic.

Half of these clowns are borderline insane.
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We need Paul to implement those monetary policies of his if we are going to get back to any semblance of fiscal sanity. Printing more money to get out of debt is totally illogical, but it is what we have been doing since I have been on this earth and even before my time. Russia and China are mining gold like crazy. They know the shit is going to hit the fan soon, and some type of gold standard is going to be setup.

I agree somewhat, but again i think its like starving the fat man. I feel like these are political ideals, not feasable options. You have to compermise and you have to be in the center and slowly strive for political ideals, otherwise your just wasting time imo
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this made me LOL
Even i dont like her and think shes kind of scary, but shes cashing in on her brand like she knows exactly what shes doing. I dont think its all dumb luck.
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Bachmann wins and Paul comes in a very close second.... Im telling you Libertarian views are more trendy then ipads right now.

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I agree somewhat, but again i think its like starving the fat man. I feel like these are political ideals, not feasable options. You have to compermise and you have to be in the center and slowly strive for political ideals, otherwise your just wasting time imo

Compromise can be done. Close the corporate tax loopholes, but at the same time cut the damn regulations on them. The regulations are also part of why US companies relocate overseas, not just to avoid the unions. It is a fact that it is easier to create your own business in Communist China than it is here. Venture capitalism is all but dead in America. Cut the damn spending on the stupid wars also. Damn, almost half the debt is attributed to these far flung wars that really serve no other purpose than to enrich Wall St bankers, whom we borrow from, and the defense contractors, to whom we pay the loan money to.
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Tim Pawlenty has officially dropped his bid for the presidency. The field is 99.9% set, unless Sarah Palin just can't bear the idea of Michele Bachmann being in the spotlight.
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The fact that Bachmann won Iowa says a lot about the people of Iowa.
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Actually the wars have cost aroun 1.3 trillion which is about 10% of or dept. You say the war has enriched Wall Street Bankers and I ask How?

Stocks on oil/military industry.
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