Meet The Candidates: 2012 GOP Thread

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Just like a liberal looking for a free meal. LOL

I was thinking the exact same thing. Good old fashion redistribution

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I was thinking the exact same thing. Good old fashion redistribution

I was joking and would buy him dinner if he was ever in the tidewater area.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Bachman always has that wide eyed, crazy, spaced out look going on. Probably because she is.

I tell you what thats a Presidential look right there.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Oh that's right, you and Saden have a bet for $100, right? Too funny. If you win Sliggin, you should take at least one liberal buddy out to dinner with your winnings

Hopefully saden will be around too and I'll make it up to DC for that. Maybe GMScud could help some warpath brethern out. Either way Nov. 2012 turns out that would be a good time.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I was joking and would buy him dinner if he was ever in the tidewater area.

Yeah I think most people would. But I wouldn't just go up to one of my liberal buddies and say hey I won a bet with a liberal guy who lives on the other side of the country that I met on the internet through a redskins forum...... anyways he can't make it, want to get something to eat? Its on me

[mlmpetert]

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[Mattyk]

Originally Posted by firstdown

She can't be to dumb she a grad from William & Mary.

Never said she was dumb, just wide eyed, crazy, and spaced out.

[GusFrerotte]

Bachmann is a smart woman, but politically stupid in my opinion. She really is going too hard to embrace the Christian Right at the wrong time. The CR has past its zenith of power. Very few moderates and more importantly, independents are going to vote for her because of that. Romney has the money, and that is the problem. Look at Iowa, and the faceoff at the county fair about if corporations are people. In his view he was right, and in fact some Supreme Court cases back him up,but the perception is that corporations are heartless money grubbing entities that are evil to the core. Isn't the man worth like over $150 million also??

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah i think Palin is too smart to run. She’s turned herself into a brand and part of that brand is acting foolish. She's making loot.

My preferred ticket is Romney Paul, and then Romney MB. At heart i think im a a little libertarianish but thats not what America needs right now. I heard David Kelly of jpmorgan compare the US debt debate and likewise economy to a fat man that needs to lose weight. A lot of people in the tea party just think you can cut spending and not raise revenues and that will right the ship. While I think we eventually need to dramatically cut spending and reduce taxes (particularly at the corporate level) you cant do it all at once after over indulging for the last 40+ years. A fat man still needs to eat, if you starve him youll end up killing him. I think Romney is the probably the most suited person of the 2 parties to lead the country into a healthier economic lifestyle through plans that are actually viable plus he will compromise when needed. Pair him up with a guy like Paul or girl like Bachmann and you plant the seeds for the Republican party to one day return to being fiscally conservative that so many have been calling for.

If Romney gets the presidential bid I think Paul, if willing, would make for a stronger ticket then Bachmann. He’s probably the smartest guy on stage and one of the most well spoken, he definitely knows more about politics then any other front runner, and he’s appealing to lot of different people. A lot of liberals like him and I see him taking votes away (a couple) from Obama, while Bachmann doesn’t take any. Evangelical Christens like him, although probably less then Bachmann. His main issues are his only issues; radical ideas like returning to the gold standard not raising the debt ceiling, although I think hes smart enough to promote these ideas I don’t think he dumb enough to employee any of them recklessly. I think his hardest sell to neo-conservatives is his foreign policy, which is why a lot of liberals like him.

Either way I think you have to pair Romney with a libertarian-esque candidate or youre going to take a significant shot at Romney’s chances. Bachmann and Paul are the main 2 contenders and Bachmann is easy to make fun of, question and take serious. Paul made be hard to take serious at times but he has more conviction than anyone else and makes damn good points to all his arguments. Romney needs to team up with someone that inspires votes and energizes Republicans, because he doesn’t by himself, Bachmann and Paul are probably the only 2 that would as VP’s. Paul may steal a few votes from some liberals while Bachmann might just motivate liberals to vote against her instead of just sitting this one out since Obama sold out on them.

Also ive been going back and forth all day with who id rather do; SP or MB. Im going with Palin today and Bachmann in her prime. Special points for Bachmann’s blue eye dark hair combo, my favorite combo on a chick.

We need Paul to implement those monetary policies of his if we are going to get back to any semblance of fiscal sanity. Printing more money to get out of debt is totally illogical, but it is what we have been doing since I have been on this earth and even before my time. Russia and China are mining gold like crazy. They know the shit is going to hit the fan soon, and some type of gold standard is going to be setup.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Bachmann is a smart woman, but politically stupid in my opinion. She really is going too hard to embrace the Christian Right at the wrong time. The CR has past its zenith of power. Very few moderates and more importantly, independents are going to vote for her because of that. Romney has the money, and that is the problem. Look at Iowa, and the faceoff at the county fair about if corporations are people. In his view he was right, and in fact some Supreme Court cases back him up,but the perception is that corporations are heartless money grubbing entities that are evil to the core. Isn't the man worth like over $150 million also??

You mean that liberals have the perception that corporations are heartless money grubbing entities that are evil to the core. Most sane people realize that a corporation in its self is designed to make money and if the don't make money they fail. If they fail then the stock holders loose and the employees loose. So most people do realize that sometime corporation have to make decisions that affect people in a negative way and thats just a part of life. I'm not saying they don't do some things wrong I'm just saying they have to make money or they fail.

[dmek25]

double post

[dmek25]

most americans have that perception. and since most of the time perception is reality....let me ask you a question. over the last 3 years at my companies quarterly meetings, we have been told that we are doing better then we ever have. business is booming. ROC is hovering around 20%. which is pretty much unheard of. but yet every year we get a 2.3% raise. so does that sound right to you?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah i think Palin is too smart to run. She’s turned herself into a brand and part of that brand is acting foolish. She's making loot.

My preferred ticket is Romney Paul, and then Romney MB. At heart i think im a a little libertarianish but thats not what America needs right now. I heard David Kelly of jpmorgan compare the US debt debate and likewise economy to a fat man that needs to lose weight. A lot of people in the tea party just think you can cut spending and not raise revenues and that will right the ship. While I think we eventually need to dramatically cut spending and reduce taxes (particularly at the corporate level) you cant do it all at once after over indulging for the last 40+ years. A fat man still needs to eat, if you starve him youll end up killing him. I think Romney is the probably the most suited person of the 2 parties to lead the country into a healthier economic lifestyle through plans that are actually viable plus he will compromise when needed. Pair him up with a guy like Paul or girl like Bachmann and you plant the seeds for the Republican party to one day return to being fiscally conservative that so many have been calling for.

If Romney gets the presidential bid I think Paul, if willing, would make for a stronger ticket then Bachmann. He’s probably the smartest guy on stage and one of the most well spoken, he definitely knows more about politics then any other front runner, and he’s appealing to lot of different people. A lot of liberals like him and I see him taking votes away (a couple) from Obama, while Bachmann doesn’t take any. Evangelical Christens like him, although probably less then Bachmann. His main issues are his only issues; radical ideas like returning to the gold standard not raising the debt ceiling, although I think hes smart enough to promote these ideas I don’t think he dumb enough to employee any of them recklessly. I think his hardest sell to neo-conservatives is his foreign policy, which is why a lot of liberals like him.

Either way I think you have to pair Romney with a libertarian-esque candidate or youre going to take a significant shot at Romney’s chances. Bachmann and Paul are the main 2 contenders and Bachmann is easy to make fun of, question and take serious. Paul made be hard to take serious at times but he has more conviction than anyone else and makes damn good points to all his arguments. Romney needs to team up with someone that inspires votes and energizes Republicans, because he doesn’t by himself, Bachmann and Paul are probably the only 2 that would as VP’s. Paul may steal a few votes from some liberals while Bachmann might just motivate liberals to vote against her instead of just sitting this one out since Obama sold out on them.

Also ive been going back and forth all day with who id rather do; SP or MB. Im going with Palin today and Bachmann in her prime. Special points for Bachmann’s blue eye dark hair combo, my favorite combo on a chick.

this made me LOL

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We need Paul to implement those monetary policies of his if we are going to get back to any semblance of fiscal sanity. Printing more money to get out of debt is totally illogical, but it is what we have been doing since I have been on this earth and even before my time. Russia and China are mining gold like crazy. They know the shit is going to hit the fan soon, and some type of gold standard is going to be setup.

I agree somewhat, but again i think its like starving the fat man. I feel like these are political ideals, not feasable options. You have to compermise and you have to be in the center and slowly strive for political ideals, otherwise your just wasting time imo

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by dmek25

this made me LOL

Even i dont like her and think shes kind of scary, but shes cashing in on her brand like she knows exactly what shes doing. I dont think its all dumb luck.