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Old 12-15-2011, 01:31 PM   #571
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Unless Trump or Paul end up playing spoiler id be as flabbergasted or even more so then Tiki Barber was after unretiring, if Obama ends up winning. And im not sure what you mean by you guys, but im not a republican, im not registered as one, and I have never once voted for one.
Quality of candidates matters...you will see and feel how much it matters the week of Nov 6, 2012.
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You guys have no fcking prayer in unseating Obama yet you guys are hopeful...how ironic
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And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.
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And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.
As far as middle class getting poorer , Dems took control of house /senate in 06 , Preident in 08 .... now we are getting poorer , not much for dems to hang their hats on . It was also Obama / Acorn sueing banks for NOT loaning to people who couldn't afford to pay the loans . Your Dems wrote the rules on housing , ran the GSE's and banks that lead to the problem , just saying .Frank Raines - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME Barney Frank flees the scene of his fiscal crimes | Washington Times Communities Maxine Waters Caught Lying About Fannie Mae Ties on 'Real Time' | NewsBusters.org Jon Corzine: All The Proof You Need About Obama’s Incompetence And Corruption « Start Thinking Right

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And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.
I'm middle class and I'm not getting poorer. It helps me when the left thinks like you.
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Conservatives killing own cause. Romney is seen by the right extremist as too moderate and not conservative enough. So as a result they've gravitated to Gingrich. Ironically though if they want to beat Obama they need a more moderate candidate like Romney. Even Obama's campaign people are rooting for Gingrich to win, as they've predicted a landslide victory.

People criticize Obama but remember 3 years ago voters had to decide between the inexperienced Obama and the senile McCain who was ticketed with gun nut Sarah Palin. Gingrich isn't as bad a choice as McCain but he's not the type of candidate that can beat Obama.

Good job republicans, go with the more conservative candidate in lieu of the guy with the best chance to actually win the general election.....again.

I mean we can't make this shit up can we?
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Conservatives killing own cause. Romney is seen by the right extremist as too moderate and not conservative enough. So as a result they've gravitated to Gingrich. Ironically though if they want to beat Obama they need a more moderate candidate like Romney. Even Obama's campaign people are rooting for Gingrich to win, as they've predicted a landslide victory.

People criticize Obama but remember 3 years ago voters had to decide between the inexperienced Obama and the senile McCain who was ticketed with gun nut Sarah Palin. Gingrich isn't as bad a choice as McCain but he's not the type of candidate that can beat Obama.

Good job republicans, go with the more conservative candidate in lieu of the guy with the best chance to actually win the general election.....again.

I mean we can't make this shit up can we?
The far right does not have enough votes to get Newt elected they will need help from other Rep. When its all said and done they will throw their vote for who ever is running against Obama. I'll have to say I'm not thrilled with any of them.
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The far right does not have enough votes to get Newt elected they will need help from other Rep. When its all said and done they will throw their vote for who ever is running against Obama. I'll have to say I'm not thrilled with any of them.
Romney is the devil I know. I mean he scares the crap out of me on some stuff but in general he's best for the most important issue, the economy. I watched a speech the other day where he criticized Obama's energy policy for giving grant money to certain developers saying that the free markets would decide then talking about drilling and other ways to get fossil fuels. Isn't over-dependence on fossil fuels why we got here in the first place? And with no short term incentive to build up the infastructure when will the free market get us out from under?

A lot of this has made me realized that Obama got elected at the wrong time. He would have been great back in 1996 when the economy was starting to pick up and progressive policies would have benefited the greater good.

Unfortunately now we have to settle for the more business friendly Republicans in hopes that businesses will start hiring people again. The problem with the Far Right is that their constitutions are mostly loons that think Christmas is under attack and that support for an unconstitutional amendment banning gay marriage is a good thing.

Not to mention the war on Planned Parenthood, an organisation that helps kids in terrible situations. It's funny how they complain about people on welfare but don't want legalized abortions.

Basically if they select the wrong candidate because of their extremist ideals they'll loose the election.
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I think what Romney was more than likely referring to was Solyndra, the solar company that received a loan from the Department of Energy as a part of loan program to fund green energy start-ups.

Whether or not Mitt Romney is electable and can beat President Obama next November remains to be seen. I seriously doubt it. Romney and the GOP are betting on the economy getting worse to boost their argument that President Obama's policies haven't worked. I think that's a bet the White House is willing to take.

The issues isn't whether or not Romney is smart or capable of running a profitable cooperation; He's done that. But he's not applying for CEO, he's running for President of the United States. Can he govern the country from the Oval office given the complexities and challenges facing the country. And we haven't even gotten to the Commander in Chief test where Romney seems all too eager to go to war with Iran, extend the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I guess what I'm saying is, for all of Romney's so called smarts on some very key issues he seems to be out of step with broad public sentiment on where to take the country.

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I'm middle class and I'm not getting poorer. It helps me when the left thinks like you.

Are you getting richer? If you are then you're an exception to the trend. I doubt you are getting richer considering the current economic environment and if your income is at the same level it was back in 2007 you have been getting poorer.
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Romney is the devil I know. I mean he scares the crap out of me on some stuff but in general he's best for the most important issue, the economy. I watched a speech the other day where he criticized Obama's energy policy for giving grant money to certain developers saying that the free markets would decide then talking about drilling and other ways to get fossil fuels. Isn't over-dependence on fossil fuels why we got here in the first place? And with no short term incentive to build up the infastructure when will the free market get us out from under?

A lot of this has made me realized that Obama got elected at the wrong time. He would have been great back in 1996 when the economy was starting to pick up and progressive policies would have benefited the greater good.

Unfortunately now we have to settle for the more business friendly Republicans in hopes that businesses will start hiring people again. The problem with the Far Right is that their constitutions are mostly loons that think Christmas is under attack and that support for an unconstitutional amendment banning gay marriage is a good thing.

Not to mention the war on Planned Parenthood, an organisation that helps kids in terrible situations. It's funny how they complain about people on welfare but don't want legalized abortions.

Basically if they select the wrong candidate because of their extremist ideals they'll loose the election.
Dirtbag, i used to think very much like you; when people took positions on things that I personally disagreed with, I wrote their opinions off as extreme. But one day I realized that extremism has to be thought of in a relative context. Examples: Many of the progressive policies that have destroyed the economy of Greece are extreme in the views of most Americans. Just like how most American’s believe that banning women from driving in Saudi Arabia under Sharia law is extreme. These may be extreme examples of “extremism” but the crazy thing is theyre not considered all that extreme in their respective countries.

So all the extremist positions you identify as a segment of the far right isn’t really all that true, rather theyre just positions you adamantly disagree with.

The US is split when it comes to the War on Christmas:
Poll: U.S. Split On 'Happy Holidays' Vs. 'Merry Christmas'

Americans are also pretty split when it comes to allowing same sex marriage:
Civil Rights

And Planned Parenthood even touts a poll that found only a slight majority of Americans oppose cutting off their federal funding:
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...hood-36392.htm

Meanwhile agreement with Obama’s most recognized progressive policy, ObamaCare, continues to tread closer to an extremist viewpoint:
AP Poll: Obamacare support hits record low of 29% | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Just because things don’t make sense logically or emotionally does not mean theyre extreme. My point is that just because you (or i) think something is an extreme viewpoint doesn’t necessarily make it one. Extremist viewpoints can only be extreme if theyre sharply in opposition to the conventional social norms. Everything, with the exception of ObamaCare (and the individual mandate in particular) are pretty evenly divided, so neither side can be extreme.
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Are you getting richer? If you are then you're an exception to the trend. I doubt you are getting richer considering the current economic environment and if your income is at the same level it was back in 2007 you have been getting poorer.
My income is up between 15 to 20% over last year. It was a personal choice I made to work harder to drive up my business. I also think it helps that so many people are convinced that the economy sucks so bad. What's more surprising is my increase in income has come from products like Life Ins. and other products customers don't have to buy so people do have cash to spend.

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