Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Debating with the enemy


Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Debating with the enemy


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-27-2011, 01:38 PM   #46
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,458
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by DynamiteRave View Post
Well howdy again guys! I'm back! Haha. At least for a lil but. The whole lockout thing has given me a case of the sads and thus I haven't been around. But I'm gonna try to come around more often cuz... I miss you guys!

I whole heartedly support gay marriage (surprise surprise) but I do feel it should be handled on a state level rather than a federal level. Of course there will be states that will completely vote against it (Think Bible belt) but I think more "progressive states" i.e. NY, MA, VT, maybe Cali someday, would have a good chance of allowing gay marriage. I just feel like the federal government have other things they should be handling.
First of all, we miss yo ass!!

The interesting thing about the N.Y. vote to legalize gay marriage is that it was passed with a Republican majority. That's a huge, huge shift in sentiment and it gives other states some political cover that have Republican majorities in the state senate and assembly.

The only point I'm making is gay couples around the country can take heart that Republicans are coming out of the closet, so to speak, on this issue and don't want to be seen as out of step with the rest of the country.

(Hey, were you anywhere near that parade madness this weekend?) Crazy!
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 06-27-2011, 01:50 PM   #47
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,116
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

I was out in New York City yesterday and there were a lot of proud people in the streets yesterday, but I must say I felt pretty odd being one of the few people holding the hand of someone of the opposite sex.

Seriously though, good for those that now finally can legally marry, like Doogie Howser. But it doesn't make my heterosexual marriage any less special. I treated my wife to a fancy dinner on Saturday. It was a wonderful evening out. Crazy expensive though. But it's fine, I wanted to treat her to something nice...and at no point did I think man my marriage just seems to fake now that they're letting gays marry.
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 02:08 PM   #48
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 36
Posts: 16,270
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 View Post
Amazing how many people are openly predjudice against gays in this day and age. Search Twitter using the F word that rhymes with lag (the one that cost Kobe and Jakim a pretty penny) and you'll see a slew of hateful comments that will disgust you whilst exposing you to some of the worst humanity has to offer.

New York liberals also turns up some pretty hateful results.
Dirtbag, care to explain all of the exclamation points and apparent excitement over it in your title?

Are you?

__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 02:14 PM   #49
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,116
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeydad View Post
Dirtbag, care to explain all of the exclamation points and apparent excitement over it in your title?

Are you?

What title are you referring to?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 03:07 PM   #50
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 36
Posts: 16,270
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Uhh, thread title.

__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 03:14 PM   #51
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,116
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeydad View Post
Uhh, thread title.

So why are you asking Dirtbag?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 03:22 PM   #52
Franchise Player
 
mredskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,949
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

I will say I support same sex simply becasue it really doesn't affect me in anyway or my marriage. So why be against something that has no bearing to me but may bring happiness to someone else? Would seem foolish to be like that.

Any who with that said it still creeps me out to see two guys kiss but hey whatever floats your boat.
__________________
When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!
mredskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 07:33 PM   #53
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 41
Posts: 5,301
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

It doesn't look like anyone here is opposed to gay marriage. So I'll throw out some arguments against it (I've seen them in other message boards) and see what we can do with them.

1. Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says the real issue comes up when those gay couples decide they want to adopt -- what happens when children are brought into the mix?

2. Just check out some of the posts here at Free Republic. Just as an example ... "They just spit on Christ"

The real problem are those that look at the issue from a purely spiritual perspective; those that actually, truly believe that God will strike the United States just as he struck Sodom and Gamorrah. You obviously can't reason with people like that -- just like you can't reason with people who fly planes into buildings because their magical sky-god tells them to.

If this gets to the Supreme Court, and it comes to a 5-4 decision in favor of gay marriage, I'm thinking the outrage will be like nothing we've ever seen in this country.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 07:41 PM   #54
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,750
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemnseven View Post
It doesn't look like anyone here is opposed to gay marriage. So I'll throw out some arguments against it (I've seen them in other message boards) and see what we can do with them.

1. Listening to Sean Hannity today, he says the real issue comes up when those gay couples decide they want to adopt -- what happens when children are brought into the mix?

2. Just check out some of the posts here at Free Republic. Just as an example ... "They just spit on Christ"

The real problem are those that look at the issue from a purely spiritual perspective; those that actually, truly believe that God will strike the United States just as he struck Sodom and Gamorrah. You obviously can't reason with people like that -- just like you can't reason with people who fly planes into buildings because their magical sky-god tells them to.

If this gets to the Supreme Court, and it comes to a 5-4 decision in favor of gay marriage, I'm thinking the outrage will be like nothing we've ever seen in this country.
Yeah, because leaving kids in a crowded foster homes instead of a life of luxury that many gay couples seem to afford is just TERRIBLE. Better off in a foster home.

Quote:
Well, MY question is why don't those families adopt children in foster care who need families NOW - there are over 500,000 children in foster care at the moment, many of them are waiting for adoption:
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 07:42 PM   #55
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 36
Posts: 12,623
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
So was anyone here there at the parade.
I have four employees who are openly gay, and they went to the pride celebrations in DC a few weeks back. It's a great showing of solidarity for the gay community, and they had a wonderful time and garner from it a strong sense of identity. I think it's great. I can't imagine how difficult it is as a young adult in high school struggling with your own sexuality while dealing with all the other life challenges high school brings.
__________________
Insert witty signature here
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 10:22 PM   #56
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,458
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Beemnseven, you raise a few very good points. From Hannity of all people!

Starting from the bottom of your post and working upwards, I don't think the Supreme Court will, or should, touch this issue with a ten foot pole. I believe it would become so politicized and fracture our society in ways unimaginable. To be clear, I'm not suggesting in any way that the issue in of itself would cause such a division, because people will believe what they believe no matter what. But for the highest court in the land to make such a decree, and essentially rubber stamp what's deemed to be moral, religiously and constitutionally acceptable would have profound consequences that would set a dangerous precedent far beyond the institution of marriage.

It should be left for the states to decide, as it's currently being handled. I must add that I'm glad the President has handled himself as the leader of the country and not following the polls on the issue or as a left wing ideologue.

In terms of should kids being raised in by gay parents? I don't think there's any empirical evidence that suggests one way or another. One thing is for sure, the modern day family structure is vastly different from the model of June and Ward Cleaver. I think kids are just, if not moreso, as influenced by what they see and read online than the comings and goings of mom and dad.

"Spitting on Christ"...don't get me started on that one.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 11:02 PM   #57
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 52
Posts: 9,282
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Sorry, I don't think this is all that big an issue for the s.c. Sure, there would politics, etc. But these same factors went into Roe v. Wade. Unlike abortion, this is an issue that has been in the public forum for close to a decade.

Further, the SC could simply ratify the "It's a State isssue" standard and do so in a manner that essentially washes their hands of the issue.
__________________
You aren't worth the water in my spit but, maybe, just maybe, you're worth the lead in my shotgun.
JoeRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 11:35 PM   #58
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,750
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMScud View Post
I have four employees who are openly gay, and they went to the pride celebrations in DC a few weeks back. It's a great showing of solidarity for the gay community, and they had a wonderful time and garner from it a strong sense of identity. I think it's great. I can't imagine how difficult it is as a young adult in high school struggling with your own sexuality while dealing with all the other life challenges high school brings.
And you haven't fired them? Happy employees are lazy employees Scud.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 11:58 PM   #59
Registered User
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 35
Posts: 10,069
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

This can not be a state issue as there are interstate matters to consider. Let's also not forget the equal protection is a constructional issue. A same sex married couple should be able to move freely to other states much like married couple of opposite sex.
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2011, 10:10 AM   #60
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Age: 36
Posts: 16,270
Re: Same-Sex Marriage!! Your Thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMScud View Post
I have four employees who are openly gay, and they went to the pride celebrations in DC a few weeks back. It's a great showing of solidarity for the gay community, and they had a wonderful time and garner from it a strong sense of identity. I think it's great. I can't imagine how difficult it is as a young adult in high school struggling with your own sexuality while dealing with all the other life challenges high school brings.
As long as you grant the straight employees time off to go to a swimsuit competition or a monster truck rally, I have no issues.


Also, since I don't smoke, can I have a break every hour to do something unproductive as well? Maybe I'll go putt some golf balls down the hallway. Recreational rights, right?


I do have a point to this nonsensical post...there's a fine line between "Equal Rights" and "Special Rights". This issue always brings up the question, what are the gays really after? Sometimes, it does seem like they want "Special Rights" above and beyond what heterosexuals are granted or entitled to.
__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.51351 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25