Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Debating with the enemy


Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Debating with the enemy


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #16
New HC, new hope!
 
RedskinRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: I'm in LA, trick!
Posts: 8,702
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
In a perfect world he would have had a trial.
And as I don't run the place it's never likely to be perfect.

Have to disagree with the trial: A trial would merely have give the scumbag a platform to spout his hatred. We need to get back on track of utterly vanquishing foes. Hearts and minds cost money and when money is involved the highest bidder is always going to win. House of Saud can outbid us any time and has.

Kill with extreme prejudice, make it very public and messy. Send the message of brutality to trump their brutality. Use unmanned drones early and often. Watch the ranks dwindle once the see the futility. Can you guess which side I'm on when I watch Star Wars?

Bring the troops home, secure the border.
RedskinRat is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 09-15-2011, 10:32 PM   #17
Eternally Legendary
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 35
Posts: 9,922
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Osama commited suicide as soon as he concocted a plan and attacked American soil and he reaffirmed his death wish when he tried to reach for a weapon when the navy seals entered his room. Suicide by American Soldiers...it was inevitable, deserved, and just.
__________________
"The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder."

-Jenkins
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2011, 11:49 PM   #18
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,951
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Matty's right. In some utopian perfect vacuum world we capture him and hold him for trial. Too bad that world doesn't exist. Neither opinion seems to hold ground as the absolute truth. Saden's probably got it most right. It doesn't matter since he never would have let himself be captured. Suicide by soldier is right.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 07:45 AM   #19
Mann Up HOF!
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 10,633
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvin Walton View Post
I hope you're trolling becuase thats just (insert words to get warned by a mod)

Bin Laden deserved to die a horrible death with extreme prejudice ASAP from the hands of Americans. He is the greatest villian that ever countered the United States of America. To give him a nano fraction of quarter for more than a second is monumentally absurd.

And Michael Moore is an idiotic bucket of steaming rectum juice.
Well, Hitler might get a mention, but essentially I agree with you on that point.

However, it doesn't change the fact that he deserved a trial under our system of justice. Charles Manson got a trial. Timothy McVeigh got a trial. Nazi war criminals got trials. Bin Laden should have gotten a trial. To deny him a trial would be to surrender the ideals which help to make us great, whether he used that trial to grandstand or not. The Constitution does not guarantee the right to a fair trial unless grandstanding will happen - it guarantees a fair trial, period.

But Saden is right: Like Hitler, bin Laden essentially committed suicide, making the point moot.
__________________
Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

Last edited by Lotus; 09-16-2011 at 08:02 AM.
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 08:26 AM   #20
Special Teams
 
Dogtag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dumfries, VA
Age: 61
Posts: 241
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

He will be tried and judged - just not on earth.
Dogtag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 11:48 AM   #21
Playmaker
 
cpayne5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,807
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
In a perfect world he would have had a trial.
In a perfect world he wouldn't have done what he did to deserve being hunted down.

He got what he deserved, given the circumstances.
__________________
"It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."
cpayne5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 02:28 PM   #22
The Starter
 
budw38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern,Va.
Posts: 2,398
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog1 View Post
Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial? He got it....
Seal Team 6....Judge.....Jury.....Executioner...
Excellent !!!!!! Too bad Moore wasn't sleeping over with Bin that night in April .
budw38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 03:18 PM   #23
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,808
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpayne5 View Post
In a perfect world he wouldn't have done what he did to deserve being hunted down.

He got what he deserved, given the circumstances.
Agreed, pretty much what I was getting at.

A trial would have been messy and would have dug up a lot of old wounds, only to end up putting him to death anyway, and it would have incited his supporters even more.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop

Last edited by Mattyk; 09-16-2011 at 03:20 PM.
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2011, 04:16 PM   #24
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 36
Posts: 12,623
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by saden1 View Post
Osama commited suicide as soon as he concocted a plan and attacked American soil and he reaffirmed his death wish when he tried to reach for a weapon when the navy seals entered his room. Suicide by American Soldiers...it was inevitable, deserved, and just.
Best post yet. /thread.
__________________
Insert witty signature here
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 02:53 AM   #25
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 26
Posts: 15,994
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Moore is a jackass for a number of reasons, but I don't have an issue with this specific opinion.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2011, 03:36 PM   #26
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,758
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Could you imagine being a family member of one of the victims of 9/11 and sitting there (in person or on tv) listening to Bin Laden defend himself and explain why he ordered what he did?

...but he wasn't the mastermind behind 9/11. That guy we had already killed.


edit: Not going to say M. Moore is a idiot and all the other shit some of you spew, but I understand his view, even though I don't agree with it. At what point do we draw the line in the sand? Who's to say that the cops or other law enforcement don't paint some guy as a target and do the same thing? Who's to judge who gets what punishment? It's a slippery slope.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

Last edited by NC_Skins; 09-19-2011 at 03:42 PM.
NC_Skins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 07:37 AM   #27
Playmaker
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 4,302
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
...but he wasn't the mastermind behind 9/11. That guy we had already killed.


edit: Not going to say M. Moore is a idiot and all the other shit some of you spew, but I understand his view, even though I don't agree with it. At what point do we draw the line in the sand? Who's to say that the cops or other law enforcement don't paint some guy as a target and do the same thing? Who's to judge who gets what punishment? It's a slippery slope.
But it wasn't the cops or some other law enforcement.
It was the American military vs a terrorist organization.
You comparison sucks and is full of hyperbole.
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 08:02 AM   #28
Mann Up HOF!
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 10,633
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

^ The point is that, military or not, the Constitution is the Constitution. Military action, the feelings of victims, heinousness of crimes, grandstanding at a trial, etc., are not reasons to throw the Constitution out of the window.

Once people begin to ignore the Constitution, as many in this thread have, you have to wonder if or when ignoring the Constitution will end.

Bin Laden had a Constitutional right to a trial. Period.
__________________
Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 08:03 AM   #29
Playmaker
 
cpayne5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,807
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
...but he wasn't the mastermind behind 9/11. That guy we had already killed.

...
KSM is alive. We captured him in 2003 and he's been sitting in a jail cell ever since.

UBL may not have been the so-called mastermind, but he was the leader of al-Qaida and gave the go ahead to carry out the attacks in his/their name.
__________________
"It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."
cpayne5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 08:12 AM   #30
Playmaker
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 4,302
Re: Michael Moore thinks Osama Bin Laden deserved a trial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
^ The point is that, military or not, the Constitution is the Constitution. Military action, the feelings of victims, heinousness of crimes, grandstanding at a trial, etc., are not reasons to throw the Constitution out of the window.

Once people begin to ignore the Constitution, as many in this thread have, you have to wonder if or when ignoring the Constitution will end.

Bin Laden had a Constitutional right to a trial. Period.
Horsehockey!
Bin Laden wasn't an American, we are at war......it doesn't apply to him. How in the world could you validate him getting the benefit of our Constitution?
And by that rationale we could never kill anyone on the battlefield, we'd have to capture all of them and put them on trial.
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28265 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25