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Old 11-01-2011, 03:09 PM   #196
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"The prosecutor said the investigation continues and 'if and when we have sufficient evidence for a criminal case, we'll bring it.' "


Hey look. Specific violations, specific actions and all wrapped up in due process. But of course, the police & government are in the pocket of the mortgage lenders/bankers so they'll never be charged with anything.

Oh wait ...
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Also, as a side note, the govt. is suing for civil penalties resulting from regulatory violations, they have not yet (and may never) file a criminal indictment.
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Hey look. Specific violations, specific actions and all wrapped up in due process. But of course, the police & government are in the pocket of the mortgage lenders/bankers so they'll never be charged with anything.

Oh wait ...

I wouldn't make that mocking quote until charges actually come out of this "investigation". How many investigations have we seen with it swept under the rug? Give me a break. The only way they'll prosecute is if there is big time pressure from above or it'll advance their careers and get them elected.


It's been since 2007 and no investigation yet?
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Re: 'Occupy' types

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Also a list of notable individuals and groups that have expressed support (currently exclusive of Unions):

The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers


Communist Party USA

Sources:
Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller


American Nazi Party

Sources:
Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News


Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran

Sources:
The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News


Barack Obama

Sources:
ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York


The government of North Korea

Sources:
Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India


Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam

Sources:
video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly


Revolutionary Communist Party

Sources:
Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance


David Duke

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com


Joe Biden

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones


Hugo Chavez

Sources:
Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com


Revolutionary Guards of Iran

Sources:
Associated Press, FARS News Agency, UPI


Black Panthers (original)

Sources:
in-person appearance, Occupy Oakland, Oakland Tribune


Socialist Party USA

Sources:
Socialist Party USA, IndyMedia, The Daily Caller


US Border Guard

Sources:
White Reference, www.usborderguard.com, Gateway Pundit, Just Another Day blog


Industrial Workers of the World

Sources:
IWW web site, iww.org, in-person appearances


CAIR

Sources:
in-person appearance, Washington Post, CAIR, CAIR New York


Nancy Pelosi

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, ABC News, The Weekly Standard


Communist Party of China

Sources:
People’s Daily (Communist Party organ), Reuters, chinataiwan.org, The Telegraph


Hezbollah

Sources:
almoqawama.org, almoqawama.org (2), almoqawama.org (3), wikipedia


9/11Truth.org

Sources:
911truth.org (1), 911truth.org (2), 911truth.org (3)


International Bolshevik Tendency

Sources:
bolshevik.org, Wire Magazine


Anonymous

Sources:
Adbusters, The Guardian, video statement


White Revolution

Source:
whiterevolution.com


International Socialist Organization

Sources:
Socialist Worker, socialistworker.org, in-person appearance


PressTV (Iranian government outlet)

Sources:
PressTV, wikipedia


Marxist Student Union

Sources:
Marxist Student Union, Big Government, marxiststudentunion.blogspot.com


Freedom Road Socialist Organization

Sources:
FightBack News, fightbacknews.org


ANSWER

Sources:
ANSWER press release, ANSWER web site, Xinhua


Party for Socialism and Liberation

Sources:
Liberation News (1), pslweb.org, The Daily Free Press, Liberation News (2)



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This does not matter, they are American citizens.
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Re: 'Occupy' types

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Also a list of notable individuals and groups that have expressed support (currently exclusive of Unions):

The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers


Communist Party USA

Sources:
Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller


American Nazi Party

Sources:
Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News


Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran

Sources:
The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News


Barack Obama

Sources:
ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York


The government of North Korea

Sources:
Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India


Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam

Sources:
video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly


Revolutionary Communist Party

Sources:
Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance


David Duke

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com


Joe Biden

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones


Hugo Chavez

Sources:
Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com


Revolutionary Guards of Iran

Sources:
Associated Press, FARS News Agency, UPI


Black Panthers (original)

Sources:
in-person appearance, Occupy Oakland, Oakland Tribune


Socialist Party USA

Sources:
Socialist Party USA, IndyMedia, The Daily Caller


US Border Guard

Sources:
White Reference, www.usborderguard.com, Gateway Pundit, Just Another Day blog


Industrial Workers of the World

Sources:
IWW web site, iww.org, in-person appearances


CAIR

Sources:
in-person appearance, Washington Post, CAIR, CAIR New York


Nancy Pelosi

Sources:
Talking Points Memo, video statement, ABC News, The Weekly Standard


Communist Party of China

Sources:
People’s Daily (Communist Party organ), Reuters, chinataiwan.org, The Telegraph


Hezbollah

Sources:
almoqawama.org, almoqawama.org (2), almoqawama.org (3), wikipedia


9/11Truth.org

Sources:
911truth.org (1), 911truth.org (2), 911truth.org (3)


International Bolshevik Tendency

Sources:
bolshevik.org, Wire Magazine


Anonymous

Sources:
Adbusters, The Guardian, video statement


White Revolution

Source:
whiterevolution.com


International Socialist Organization

Sources:
Socialist Worker, socialistworker.org, in-person appearance


PressTV (Iranian government outlet)

Sources:
PressTV, wikipedia


Marxist Student Union

Sources:
Marxist Student Union, Big Government, marxiststudentunion.blogspot.com


Freedom Road Socialist Organization

Sources:
FightBack News, fightbacknews.org


ANSWER

Sources:
ANSWER press release, ANSWER web site, Xinhua


Party for Socialism and Liberation

Sources:
Liberation News (1), pslweb.org, The Daily Free Press, Liberation News (2)



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I have no problem with these people as long as they are not some right wing KKK types they are cool with me.
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This does not matter, they are American citizens.

No, what they are trying to do is associate a bunch of hooligans and morons with the Occupy movement so they can say "SEE!!....Such and such supports this movement and they are racist communist socialist bastards who are un-American!!"


The sad part. Moronic Americans will probably bite on it as well. They do with everything else.
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I wouldn't make that mocking quote until charges actually come out of this "investigation". How many investigations have we seen with it swept under the rug? Give me a break. The only way they'll prosecute is if there is big time pressure from above or it'll advance their careers and get them elected.


It's been since 2007 and no investigation yet?
Lordy ... I am quoting your cite - A cite that explains a govt. investigation into and the govt.'s request for significant civil penalties against companies and individuals in the the finance industry AND a cite which you rely on to say that fraud/misdoing existed. So ... the fact the govt. filed a civil suit that will likely result in significant fines is evidence that fraud existed in the finance industry but it is not evidence that the govt. is actively investigating or taking actions against the finance industry?!? :frusty:

Also, it seems pretty clear that investigations have been going on - in arguing your various points you have cited to several (including this one). Some have come to fruition, some have not. Criminal investigations of white collar crime are time & document intensive - believe it or not, it takes a lot more then "cause we think so" to bring and prove criminal charges.

[As a side note, this is one of the reasons that I think white collar crimes should carry much stiffer penalities than they generally seem to - b/c of the nature of the crime, they are resource intensive and generally difficult to prove so when a conviction is secured it generally represents a significant state expenditure. As such, penalties should be much stiffer to increase the detterent value].
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I have no problem with these people as long as they are not some right wing KKK types they are cool with me.
No problem with Hezbollah, David Duke (former KKK, founder of NAAWP), Communist Party USA, Revolutionary Guards of Iran???

ummmm, OK.
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Great stuff mlmp.

Why is it great stuff? So you can go about waving your elephant flag in some sort of triumph victory? Because you like the association that this person is trying to link communist/racists/terrorists with the Democratic party. It's quite obvious that's exactly what they are trying to do and trying to lump the movement as.


You should be ****ing ashamed of yourself (and mlmpetert for posting that garbage) Get off that god damn Dems vs Repubs bullshit. It's sickening and it's played out. Until you realize both parties are absolute full of shit, you will continue to contribute to the downfall of this nation.

Also, guess what? The US supported Bin Laden and his Jihad, who turned around and killed over 3,000 of our people (and more if you count the wars). You didn't care much about who supported who then did you, so why in the hell are you caring now? Oh, because it fits your agendas.
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Why is it great stuff? So you can go about waving your elephant flag in some sort of triumph victory? Because you like the association that this person is trying to link communist/racists/terrorists with the Democratic party. It's quite obvious that's exactly what they are trying to do and trying to lump the movement as.

You should be ****ing ashamed of yourself (and mlmpetert for posting that garbage) Get off that god damn Dems vs Repubs bullshit. It's sickening and it's played out. Until you realize both parties are absolute full of shit, you will continue to contribute to the downfall of this nation.

Also, guess what? The US supported Bin Laden and his Jihad, who turned around and killed over 3,000 of our people (and more if you count the wars). You didn't care much about who supported who then did you, so why in the hell are you caring now? Oh, because it fits your agendas.
Chill dude. Let go of the anger, it hinders actual debate. You're all over the board and spouting nonesense.

(1) Do you dispute the factual allegation that these various groups and individuals have indicated their support for the OWS movment?

(2) In citing and creating the list where did either mlpertert or SS33 mention the Republicans? Rather than impute an intent to their actions and spew anger, why not simply post groups that show the wide spectrum of support for the OWS to disprove what you believe their intent to be?

(3) As usual you compare apples to oranges and call them equivalent - Are you seriously suggesting that the US support of the Taliban in its oppostion to the Soviet Union during the Cold War is any way the equivalent of these groups supporting the OWS? One was a war time alliance of convenience to acheive a specific political goal, the other is a statement of political support, by several groups, for a populist movement seen to be philosophically aligned with some of their goals.

Do these groups define the OWS? No. Just as the NRA doesn't define the Tea Party. However, like the NRA's support of portions of the Tea Party's agenda, the affiliations are indicative of the philosophical bent of the OWS.

As Lotus indicated earlier, these groups don't define the OWS. But just as the Tea Party draws its philosophical inspiration from libertarianism, it is clear that, both from the list of "supporters" and from the movements own words/actions, the OWS draws its philosophical inspiration from traditional anachirstic/ communistic philosophy.

Meanwhile, you keep blaming "the media" for painting the OWS as loonies/hippies etc. and, sure, there are media outlets that do so. Just as surely, however, there are media outlets that portray the movement in a very different light. As I said, the facts - all the facts, not just the ones you like - are out there. Stop assuming people who either disagree with you are either moronic, are unaware of the facts you believe to be dispositive or are pursuing a particular agenda. Perhaps, just perhaps, they have done just a much research as you and are just as smart as you but just happen to disagree with your conclusions.

You consistently rail against being stereotyped yet, in almost every post you make, and just as consistently, you stereotype those who disagree with you or who see things differently. While not stupid, you are often either incredibly hypocritical or just simply obtuse.
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Chill dude. Let go of the anger, it hinders actual debate. You're all over the board and spouting nonesense.
You don't want to debate. You just want to sit up here, paint these guys as the hippies and that they should just go home so you all can continue business as normal. There was absolutely no reason to bring those moronic groups into this discussion. It was brought in so you can guys can stereotype the OWS movement that much more. Hey, whatever makes you blokes feel comfy in your recliner. I just hope that one day, YOU have a cause that you want the people to back and let them paint a horrible picture of you and see how it feels. Like I said, you don't want to debate and it's obvious by the remarks many of you have made up here.



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(2) In citing and creating the list where did either mlpertert or SS33 mention the Republicans? Rather than impute an intent to their actions and spew anger, why not simply post groups that show the wide spectrum of support for the OWS to disprove what you believe their intent to be?
He doesn't have to mention Republicans. I know good and god damn well how the man thinks at this point. He sees two sides. The Dems, and the Repubs. I already ignored his comment in regards to my article where he had to point out it was by Dems and liberal..blah..blah..blah. Yet, when I post stuff bashing Dems, it's ok. When he posted "Great stuff", I know exactly why.


Let's go down this list of Dems on that list:

1) Barrack Obama
2) Joe Biden
3) Nancy Pelosi

It doesn't take a genius to see what this list was designed to do.

obama communist - Google Search



For the record, I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me. I do have a problem bringing bullshit like this into the discussion where it's not relevant to the discussion and does nothing but bring animosity.

Give me a break with the NRA supporting the Tea Party. Those people on that list weren't credible unions or associations. You want to talk about apples and oranges...lol


As long as you continue with this type of "debate" and nonsense, I'm going to continue to be "angry". You are fine with your arguments of "What do they want?", "What are their demands?", "why are they there?". Valid arguments and points. So why bring the other mud slinging into this? To back up the stereotypes you all have so eloquently painted? I'm going to fight fire with fire. It's how I operate. When you stop stereotyping, so will I.


Also, why wasn't this guy's name up there?
GOP Presidential Candidate joins Occupy Wall Street? The end is near. - Arizona Hispanic Republicans

Rhetorical question. We all know why.
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Stop assuming people who either disagree with you are either moronic, are unaware of the facts you believe to be dispositive or are pursuing a particular agenda.


The mention of "moronic Americans" was in regards to people believing the "guilt by associations" crap being passed around. (much like the list shown previously) The "Birther" crowd and the people who believed Obama was Islamic and a terrorist supporter are the people I'm targeting with that statement. If you aren't one of those people, then it doesn't apply.
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Judge tells Tennessee to stop arresting Occupy protesters - CNN.com

Apparently Nashville = China. Glad to see political free speech and the right to assemble are still important to Tennessee. Such an embarrassment the state conceded to the ruling.
About time somebody stood up for the people.
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