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Old 10-21-2011, 07:50 AM   #61
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/ny...imes&seid=auto
thats pretty funny and the added element should give a little life to keep this thing going.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:09 AM   #62
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This stuff is all amusing and these hippies sure do know how to make people laugh. At the end of the day though the wall st crooks are still crooking and so are the lobbyists who have weekly scheduled meetings with our leaders.

Jon comes through again:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/290660/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-scorn-in-the-usa
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:51 PM   #63
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This is fascinating/hilarious to me:

So OWS has raised about 500k which is great for their cause, but since OWS doesn’t really have a uniform message its causing some angst inside the movement. OWS, as a microcosm of a socialist society, appears to be sharing the same issues of any socialistic style of government.

Apparently there are different groups within the movement like the Kitchen Group, Sanitation Group, Finance Working Group, Comfort Working Group and of course Pulse Working Group (the bongo guys). All recognized groups are funded with money by the OWS’s General Assembly. Guess what???? Some groups don’t think they are getting enough or don’t like rules the OWS GA imposes on them, Imagine that!

Several days ago the Pulse Working Group had some of its drums vandalized, stolen, or messed up from rain. So they wanted $8,000 to get new drums but were turned down by their own General Assembly! The drummers are a major revenue raiser since people leave tips for their performances and while the drummers get to keep some of that money the GA has been accused of “taxing” the drummers at around 50% of their earnings. Then, to the drummer’s displeasure, the GA voted that the drummers can only play 2 hours a day (apparently nonstop drumming all day and night can get annoying), which was later revised to 4 hours a day. There is even speculation that the vandalism to the drummer’s drums was a inside job as the vandalism happened after the drummers didn’t abide by the rules the GA enforced upon them.

As you can imagine the Pulse Working Group is PISSED! But a lot of the working groups are pissed so a new SpokesCouncil model was created to streamline things. This allows each working group to act independently without securing the will of the collective…. Kind of like a democracy with special interest groups. This was in response because the “GA is unwieldy, cumbersome, and redundant.”, much like any overbearing socialist government we have seen throughout history no matter how well intentioned…..

Imagine if the drummers were free to do what they wanted to do with all the money they raised? So instead of surrendering their money for the collective good they could use their own money to provide for themselves. I mean some of the drummers have to be thinking this right? 18 year old Seth Harper eloquently said in reference to the OWS GA “They’re imposing a structure on the natural flow of music”. I couldn’t say it better myself…..

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“And we’ve had issues with the drummers too. They drum incessantly all day, and really loud.” Facilitators spearheaded a General Assembly proposal to limit the drumming to two hours a day.

To Shane Engelerdt, a 19-year-old from Jersey City and self-described former “head drummer,” this amounted to a Jacobinic betrayal. “They are becoming the government we’re trying to protest," he said. "They didn’t even give the drummers a say ... Drumming is the heartbeat of this movement. Look around: This is dead, you need a pulse to keep something alive.”

The drummers claim that the finance working group even levied a percussion tax of sorts, taking up to half of the $150-300 a day that the drum circle was receiving in tips. “Now they have over $500,000 from all sorts of places,” said Engelerdt. “We’re like, what’s going on here? They’re like the banks we’re protesting."

Daniel Zetah, a 35-year-old lead facilitator from Minnesota, mounted a bench. “We need to clear this out. There are a bunch of kids coming to stay here.” One of the hoodied men fought back: “I’m not giving up my space for ****ing kids. They have parents and homes. My parents are dead. This is my space.”

“The sunshine protestors will leave,” said “Zonkers,” a 20-year-old cleaner and longtime occupier from Tennessee. (He asked that his name not be used due to a felony marijuana conviction.) “The people who remain are the people who care. You get a lot of crust punks, silly kids, people who want to panhandle ... It disgusts me. These people are here for a block party.”

A man named Sage Roberts desperately rifled through the pile, looking for a sleeping bag. “They’ve taken my stuff,” he muttered. Lauren Digion, the sanitation group leader, broke in: “This isn’t your stuff. You got all this stuff from comfort [the working group]. It belongs to comfort.”

“When cleanups happen, people get mad,” Glaser said. “This is its own city. Within every city there are people who freeload, who make people’s lives miserable. We just deal with it. We can’t kick them out.”

In response to dissatisfaction with the consensus General Assembly, many facilitators have adopted a new “spokescouncil” model, which allows each working group to act independently without securing the will of the collective. “This streamlines it,” argued Zonkers. “The GA is unwieldy, cumbersome, and redundant."

As the communal sleeping bag argument between Lauren Digion and Sage Roberts threatened to get out of hand, a facilitator in a red hat walked by, brow furrowed. “Remember? You’re not allowed to do any more interviews,” he said to Digion. She nodded and went back to work. But when Roberts shouted, “Don’t tell me what to do!” Digion couldn't hold back.

“Someone has to be told what to do," she said. "Someone needs to give orders. There’s no sense of order in this ****ing place.”
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Ok so I went to you tube to look and I guess if you get enough people together with POS drums they can add up to $8000 over paying for new equipment. They should not call them self drummers because this is just a bunch of stoned guys betting on drums.

Occupy Wall street drummers-10/09/11 - YouTube

Its the heartbeat of the movement brah
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:33 AM   #65
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A couple other incidents:

Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

UPDATE: Serial Exposer Captured | Ballard News-Tribune
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In the Occupy Dallas article, it says "Occupy Dallas organizers said they’ll implement a 10 p.m. curfew and check the identification of anyone seen walking the grounds after that time."

Wait a minute, isn't this a public park? Does the City have a curfew? Regardless, what gives them the right to ask for my ID? The inanity just continues.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:05 PM   #68
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Why am I not surprised....did anyone think our friends at ACORN would quietly disappear into the night:

EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Playing Behind Scenes Role In 'Occupy' Movement | Fox News

and looks like Oakland and Atlanta have had enough of this psuedo-hippie nonsense:

Police, protesters clash in Atlanta, Oakland – USATODAY.com


BTW, very funny post mlmp
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yeah, lets arrest the people we dont agree with....wow. maybe now is the time
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yeah, lets arrest the people we dont agree with....wow. maybe now is the time
You arrest people for violating laws, such as no squatting on public property. The Mayor of Atlanta supported these numbskulls, but when they decided to have an unsanctioned concert, put wire hangers into lightsockets, and walk around with AK-47s, it's time to shut it down.
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drove by occupy balitmore around 9:15 this morning . .ghost camp. just a bunch of zipped up tents. i honestly think there are about 3 people left actually doing the occupy thing in blatimore. the rest just show up on the weekends.

on a side note, had a job interview today. the guy let me know it would require a 60 hour work week. in my head i was thinking of the early scenes in dumber and dumber where they come home from looking for jobs and they say there are no jobs ... unless you want to work 40 hours a week.

would you all work 60 hours a week for over 100k a year? i aint worth it to me. i could make 60-70k working 40 hours a week with the occassional 50-60 hour week sprinkled in there.
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would you all work 60 hours a week for over 100k a year? i aint worth it to me. i could make 60-70k working 40 hours a week with the occassional 50-60 hour week sprinkled in there.
May be worth it to tough it out for a while, pad the resume, and then find a job with the 100K pay and less hours. You have to make the call though.
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drove by occupy balitmore around 9:15 this morning . .ghost camp. just a bunch of zipped up tents. i honestly think there are about 3 people left actually doing the occupy thing in blatimore. the rest just show up on the weekends.

on a side note, had a job interview today. the guy let me know it would require a 60 hour work week. in my head i was thinking of the early scenes in dumber and dumber where they come home from looking for jobs and they say there are no jobs ... unless you want to work 40 hours a week.

would you all work 60 hours a week for over 100k a year? i aint worth it to me. i could make 60-70k working 40 hours a week with the occassional 50-60 hour week sprinkled in there.
I've worked 60 hour weeks for much less than 100k. But I'm working my dream job in terms of the work so it's ok. I'd have to change careers to make more.
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May be worth it to tough it out for a while, pad the resume, and then find a job with the 100K pay and less hours. You have to make the call though.
thats kinda what i was thinking, but i got the feeling i was being offered one of those "burn and turn" jobs where they ride you hard for a couple years then let you go before you start commanding too high a salary. then they turn to another 3 years younger you . .rinse, wash, repeat.

much like a runningback in the nfl.

at 33 i want to stay away from the long hour, good pay job. besides, i wouldnt be able to get hammer time on sundays. sundays is the only day i enjoy nowadays. i used to be a free spirited rebel of sorts. now im a beaten down guy who sits on the highway going to his deadend hate it job only to come home and have the wifey complaing about dog hair or not getting the recycling out . .

im probably just flattering myself they even wanted to hire me.

oh well the search continues. had a very intense pissing match with the boss yesterday. he basically said i was fired but in one of those heated moment type ways where everyone knows as long as it doesnt really get out of control ill be back tomorrow. i know better, should have just let the old mans dementia induced "notion" slide. his notion was that he heard somewhere a client didnt feel comfortable with me handling the case. really pissed me off b/c i have this case wrapped up in a nice lil bow and the person he thought might have told him the client said something was called in and he said he had no clue what the demented old man was talking about and the client never said anythign like that, in fact the client asks for me specifically every time he calls. thats what really pissed me off. he had no clue where he got this "notion" from but nevertheless wanted to take over the case. and insisted i was being too sensitive. the ****er, im being sensitive?

today he came in to "try and apologize" which really means he was just repeating his balony in a calm manner and not yelling with saliva building up in the corners of his mouth so when he was yelling it looked like neo in the matrix when he asks for his phone call. i didnt let him off the hook. again, i should have. didnt get to work until 12 today with no given reason.

he then slammed a case folder on my desk, i said why did you do that, he said "to make an impression", i said "well youve been making a bad impression on me lately". he then "promised" me more work. i then talked about the crap pay i get comparatively with the preface that weve talked about this a zillion times before and i know nothing is going to change. that predictably turned into a "your not in the office as much as other people" conversation. i predictably begged to differ.

long story short, OTM is staying late b/c he decided to go all "occupy" eff authority at work and now every time i went to the printer or copier i had a new file with notes on my desk.

if i still smoked cigarettes im betting i would have just let his shit slide and go for a cig break. then right now, i would already be home sitting miserably on my couch watching some crap baby show or ancient aliens my lady has dvr'd.
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You arrest people for violating laws, such as no squatting on public property. The Mayor of Atlanta supported these numbskulls, but when they decided to have an unsanctioned concert, put wire hangers into lightsockets, and walk around with AK-47s, it's time to shut it down.
I love how we put limits on protesting.


Yeah guys, you have the freedom of speech, just keep it in the hours of 8am - 11pm M-F. Thanks in advance.


**** that. That's the problem with the laws and our country. They've stripped our rights slowly as the years have gone by. I hope they break out the cocktail bombs and burn their shit down. I'll leave you with this.


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" -- John F. Kennedy


The more you try to suppress the people, the more angry and violent they will become.
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