Militiamen plot terror attack

Lotus · 11-01-2011, 10:15 PM

Not all terrorists are Muslims from abroad it seems.

Federal officials arrested four members of a Georgia militia group Tuesday, alleging that the men were planning to attack state and federal buildings with guns and explosives.

Georgia militia members arrested, accused of plotting ricin attack - latimes.com

That Guy · 11-02-2011, 07:06 AM

russian satellites have always had huge issues with that kind of thing. It just never makes the US news cause our media doesn't really care about anything outside our borders.

Lotus · 11-02-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

russian satellites have always had huge issues with that kind of thing. It just never makes the US news cause our media doesn't really care about anything outside our borders.

No dude. This is Georgia as in Atlanta, King's Mountain, peachtree state, etc., not the former USSR region.

Alvin Walton · 11-02-2011, 08:39 AM

The affidavits against the four men -- Frederick Thomas, 73, Dan Roberts, 67, Ray H. Adams, 65, and Samuel J. Crump, 68 -- do not specify the group to which they belonged, indicating only that they were "members of a fringe group of a known militia organization" called the "covert group," which held clandestine meetings in the northeast Georgia foothills.

LOL....beware of pissed off old southerners.

NC_Skins · 11-02-2011, 08:50 AM

Expect more of this. The people are fed up with the government to the point they'll start bringing violence into the picture. Instead of trying to go after guys like this (not that they shouldn't), how about we start fixing the issues that cause guys like this to plot violent acts.

JoeRedskin · 11-02-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Expect more of this. The people are fed up with the government to the point they'll start bringing violence into the picture. Instead of trying to go after guys like this (not that they shouldn't), how about we start fixing the issues that cause guys like this to plot violent acts.

Fine, what's the plan?

1. Stop donations from corporations into political campaigns. Got any candidates willing to back this? Got any plan to deal with the numerous SCOTUS decisions equating monetary contributions as a method of free speech? Got any plan to craft legislation that prohibits corp. contributions while allowing corporate entities to be the campaign finance entity (unless of course you suggest that all contibutions be held privately by the candidates themselves in personal or private business bank accounts)?

2. Ummm .....

NC_Skins · 11-02-2011, 09:23 AM

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Fine, what's the plan?

1. Stop donations from corporations into political campaigns. Got any candidates willing to back this? Got any plan to deal with the numerous SCOTUS decisions equating monetary contributions as a method of free speech? Got any plan to craft legislation that prohibits corp. contributions while allowing corporate entities to be the campaign finance entity (unless of course you suggest that all contibutions be held privately by the candidates themselves in personal or private business bank accounts)?

2. Ummm .....

I don't profess to know all the answer JR, I just know the system is broken. My biggest problem I have is mixing business with politics. It's become a dangerous game that has led us down a dreadful path. I feel the same way about religion and politics. Neither one of those two things should influence the people it governs. Why? Because the nature of those two things will overtake what's good for the people and do what's best for their own self interest.

JoeRedskin · 11-02-2011, 09:45 AM

Okay. This I get.

Religion and politics I agree whole heartedly with you.

On the other hand, I just don't see how you can separate business and politics. Business is how the economy functions and it touches everyone of us everyday in innumberable transactions. Government regulates how business is done, if it doesn't bad, bad bad things happen: unregulated free markets, general corruption (how do you verify that that gallon of gas you got is actually a gallon and not .85 of a gallon? Or that certain foods are safe?), etc. How govt. regulates business is determinative of "What's good for the people".

People are business and vice versa. It can't be removed from the political equation.

NC_Skins · 11-02-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay. This I get.

Religion and politics I agree whole heartedly with you.

On the other hand, I just don't see how you can separate business and politics. Business is how the economy functions and it touches everyone of us everyday in innumberable transactions. Government regulates how business is done, if it doesn't bad, bad bad things happen: unregulated free markets, general corruption (how do you verify that that gallon of gas you got is actually a gallon and not .85 of a gallon? Or that certain foods are safe?), etc. How govt. regulates business is determinative of "What's good for the people".

People are business and vice versa. It can't be removed from the political equation.

Maybe I should be more clear on the business and politics quote. I have a problem with Big Businesses and our government.

I'm not saying that government shouldn't make decisions for or based on businesses. I should more or less say "Big Business" should be separated. The majority of jobs in America are due to small business owners, yet the majority of regulation favors big business. They constantly get tax breaks and ship jobs overseas. They are deregulated which allows them to do shady things that lead to economic downfalls, and then expect taxpayers to bail them out.

saden1 · 11-02-2011, 11:01 AM

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When it comes to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die.

That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

NC_Skins · 11-02-2011, 11:09 AM

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That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

Slingin Sammy 33 · 11-02-2011, 11:48 AM

Will be very interesting once all the details come out. If the allegations are true, throw the book and these idiots and lock 'em away.

JoeRedskin · 11-02-2011, 11:59 AM

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Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

No. Just, No. Not even remotely in the same universe. If you can't see the monumental leap required to equate these two actions, I just don't know what to say.

JoeRedskin · 11-02-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

This.

saden1 · 11-02-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

No but I am sure there are some redneck hicks who believe external wars are about protecting the constitution. I believe team Bush called it "collateral damage" which apparently detached America from any wrongdoing as far as civilian deaths.

11-01-2011, 10:15 PM	#1
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That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,616	Re: Militiamen plot terror attack russian satellites have always had huge issues with that kind of thing. It just never makes the US news cause our media doesn't really care about anything outside our borders. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

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Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,846	Re: Militiamen plot terror attack The affidavits against the four men -- Frederick Thomas, 73, Dan Roberts, 67, Ray H. Adams, 65, and Samuel J. Crump, 68 -- do not specify the group to which they belonged, indicating only that they were "members of a fringe group of a known militia organization" called the "covert group," which held clandestine meetings in the northeast Georgia foothills. LOL....beware of pissed off old southerners. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

11-02-2011, 08:50 AM	#5
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,254	Re: Militiamen plot terror attack Expect more of this. The people are fed up with the government to the point they'll start bringing violence into the picture. Instead of trying to go after guys like this (not that they shouldn't), how about we start fixing the issues that cause guys like this to plot violent acts. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

11-02-2011, 09:45 AM	#8
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,140	Re: Militiamen plot terror attack Okay. This I get. Religion and politics I agree whole heartedly with you. On the other hand, I just don't see how you can separate business and politics. Business is how the economy functions and it touches everyone of us everyday in innumberable transactions. Government regulates how business is done, if it doesn't bad, bad bad things happen: unregulated free markets, general corruption (how do you verify that that gallon of gas you got is actually a gallon and not .85 of a gallon? Or that certain foods are safe?), etc. How govt. regulates business is determinative of "What's good for the people". People are business and vice versa. It can't be removed from the political equation. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

11-02-2011, 11:48 AM	#12
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,202	Re: Militiamen plot terror attack Will be very interesting once all the details come out. If the allegations are true, throw the book and these idiots and lock 'em away. __________________ ...[If] an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything]....you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.

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