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Old 11-10-2011, 10:44 PM   #241
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Penn State tragedy: Barry Switzer says Joe Paterno had to go | NewsOK.com

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“Having been in this profession a long time and knowing how close coaching staffs are, I knew that this was a secret that was kept secret,” Switzer said. “Everyone on that staff had to have known, the ones that had been around a long time.”
No doubt they all knew. Which is exactly why you have to fire the whole staff at the end of the year, if not now.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:46 PM   #242
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I saw the portion of this interview that was aired last night... I totally commend this student in the middle of that madness. His look is priceless at 0:40, when the guy interrupts him.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:57 PM   #243
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If Chris Brown gets community service and Stallworth gets probation then I seriously doubt that Joe Pa goes to jail. They don't just send 85 year old men with no criminal record to jail, never mind 85 year old men that can afford very expensive attorneys. He's more likely to look at a huge civil suit for negligence and if he does get convicted criminally it will be probation.
I agree with you but I was paraphrasing from the penn state neighbor's discussion, and also what I have been seeing on TV.

TV said tonight that two of the charges Joe may face are felonies in the state of Pennsylvania and the violation of the Child Protective Services law can carry a 3 year sentence in jail.

He most likely will have community service / some type of fines, but then again the judge can look how far back joe was covering things up and be stricter on him... I'm not a lawyer so i dont know how that all works.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:14 PM   #244
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Penn State Live - Reminder: Penn State to hold commencement ceremonies May 18-20


-- 3 p.m.: The College of Health and Human Development commencement ceremony in the Bryce Jordan Center. Jerry Sandusky, founder of The Second Mile, will speak.


Even back in 2007, they were having this child molester speak at commencement. I really hope all involved die horrible deaths. Seriously.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:26 PM   #245
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Stuff keeps getting uglier and uglier.

Penn State child sex-abuse scandal: When we had the facts, we ran the story | PennLive.com


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During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters.

No charges were filed against Sandusky in 1998. With the mother cowed into silence, the incident remained buried

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It appears from the grand jury presentment that the school’s aim was to handle this report very quietly. They succeeded. No one who had been directly involved talked about it at the time. No one.

Sandusky flaunted the so-called “ban” on his bringing kids to campus — in fact, he held Second Mile camps on other Penn State campuses as recently as 2008. We never noticed any sanctions against the former coach because they didn’t really exist


Sandusky released on bail, judge orders no contact with minors | PennLive.com


Dude didn't have to pay 1 penny for bail. WTF??
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:31 PM   #246
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Sorry man, I've been a little testy today. No problems.
It's cool. From your pov I'm sure it must be tough to watch your alma mater go through something like this. It's crazy to think that one of the most iconic football coaches of our time could be involved with something so heinous. It's also crazy to think that on Saturday, for the first time in 46 years there will be someone else coaching Penn State from the sidelines.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:39 PM   #247
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For some reason I just get the feeling Sandusky is going to take the coward's way out and just kill himself, rather than face the rest of his life in prison. He's probably going to sit there and say, well I've lived a long and fulfilling life, now that it's going down the shitter it's time for me to make my exit.

It's why I think there's just no appropriate justice for him. Killing him is the easy way out, letting him get raped in prison sounds like something he'd enjoy, and for some reason I get the feeling no matter how much money these kids get for their suffering, it's still not going to change the fact that they had to go through hell and will still need a lot of time and healing to get over it.
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Well hate it that will end the Paterno era like that. But had Joe done things differently and told on his assistants and done more, who knows as he would had kept his job.
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Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.
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Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.
McQueary is the worst in all of this (save the obvious choice of Sandusky). He saw a 58 year old man sodomizing a kid. He was apparently 28 years old at the time 6'4 200 something pounds. I don't know about you but in a fight I would have thought that McQueary had the upper hand.

I mean if he had seen him naked in the showers with the kid that would have been one thing, because even though thats inappropriate it still leaves a little room for reasonable doubt. However from what I'm hearing he actually saw the rape and there is nothing to misinterpret about that situation. He caught him red handed and rather then saving the kid from a feeble old man he ran and left that kid to suffer through more abuse, not even calling the police. That is unacceptable.

Apparently one of the alleged reasons as to why he isn't being fired is to avoid any further liability. A university firing a whistle blower is apparently a great way to get sued.


"Golly gee Joe Pa this is great. Putting my career ahead of the needs of that 10 year old boy......totally worth it"
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:38 AM   #251
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Rumors started today that there will be evidence released soon that Sandoushsky was actually pimping out young boys to rich pervs. A full on weird Nambla Sex ring type of thing. It was on aol earlier today. Who knows how much speculation that is but at this point, I'm not surprised by anything. I can't believe how evil this cat is. I grew up with a dad who arrested serial killers and sociopathic drug cartel hit men and this is giving me the same feeling in my stomach that the stories he would tell me about these demented raping serial killer types. Crimes that tear away the fabric of our very humanity. It's unreal man. Those poor kids.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:09 AM   #252
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Apparently, the Gary Schultz dude was involved with university police(VP or something) and McQueary did inform him of what he witnessed, allegedly. I'm just saying.

He's VP of Finance. Usually some stiff overseas the police department, but usually has 0 to do with law enforcement or making sure things are processed. That's how it is here at ECU and most likely that way across the nation. People want to say "well he was in charge of the police department", but that doesn't fly. Police officers are bound to different duties than say some guy of finance.



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For some reason I just get the feeling Sandusky is going to take the coward's way out and just kill himself, rather than face the rest of his life in prison. He's probably going to sit there and say, well I've lived a long and fulfilling life, now that it's going down the shitter it's time for me to make my exit.
I think the guy is too egotistical to off himself. The way he flaunted those kids around the school after being caught several times already?



McQueary will not attend Nebraska game; his father says he'd speak if he could - NCAA Football - Sporting News

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The father of Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary says if he could, his son would discuss the child sex abuse scandal that has led to the firing of coach Joe Paterno.

“It’s not that he’s not willing,” John J. McQueary, told The New York Times. “I think it’s eating him up not to be able to tell his side, but he’s under investigation by the grand jury. He’ll make it. He’s a tough kid.”

Looks like McQueary is under investigation from Grand Jury. Hrmmm.. Also the fact his dad called him a "tough kid" is laughable. No dad, he isn't tough, which is why his sorry ass walked out when a kid was getting raped. In fact, his dad should be getting fired from his job just for giving that sort of advice.
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Tickle The Wire » Column: Doing the Right Thing in Penn State Scandal

This is a good article by a ex-FBI agent and a good story about Bo Schembechler having to "do the right thing."


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In 1987, the FBI was investigating two sports agents, Norby Walters and Lloyd Bloom, who had ties to organized crime. Walters and Bloom had worked up a scam where they bribed blue-chip college football players to sign post-dated, secret, agency contracts while they were still eligible to play college football – a clear violation of NCAA rules. Ultimately some of the players balked, threats were made by Walters and Bloom, and the whole thing fell apart.

Players who had signed the contracts were identified. They were all star players on prominent college teams. Two of the players were on Bo’s 1986 Michigan team.

When Bo found out, he was livid. He called one of the players, Garland Rivers, an All-American DB, into the office and had Rivers tell him the whole story.

Then Bo called me.

When I got to Bo’s office, Bo told Rivers “Tell this FBI agent everything about your relationship with Norby Walters.” Bo could have distanced himself and Michigan from the investigation.

Michigan would have been just one of many major football programs victimized by Walters and Bloom. But that wasn’t Bo. Damage control doesn’t mean hiding from the truth. It means taking responsibility for your actions and trying to rectify the mistakes.
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:11 PM   #254
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No one seems to really know former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky - ESPN

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AMBRIDGE, Pa. -- The books were uncovered in an old box Wednesday, and Kip Richeal called to say it was OK to stop by and grab one, free of charge. It never came close to being a best-seller, it almost didn't get published, and Richeal, the co-author, never liked the title. But Jerry Sandusky insisted. He wanted the book about his life to be called "Touched."



Richeal has a quiet job selling headstones at a monument company now, but his phone has not stopped ringing for the past six days. Sandusky, legendary assistant coach and pillar of the community, has been charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse to boys in a scandal that has prompted Joe Paterno's firing and rattled the state of Pennsylvania. Sandusky's name is toxic, and his movements are tracked. On Thursday, the State College paper reported that, according to a source, Sandusky was seen shopping at a Dick's Sporting Goods wearing Penn State gear, and a nation recoiled.
I dont know how much faith i put into the report that sandusky was really out shopping at Dick's yesterday like nothing happened but this guy needs to go back to jail asap, if only for his own safety. I give it a 50/50 chance that he doesnt take his life by the end of the weekend, maybe right after he watches the PSU Nebraska game from the comfort of his living room. Even if he doesnt kill himself for some reason hes gonna get severely hurt or killed if hes running around town and shopping at Dick's.
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