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Old 11-11-2011, 03:17 PM   #256
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Imagine if he drops the soap in prison.
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:13 PM   #257
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Mike McQueary placed on administrative leave
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So this guy and the Athletic Director are on leave. I wonder why they haven't been fired.

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Old 11-11-2011, 05:50 PM   #259
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So this guy and the Athletic Director are on leave. I wonder why they haven't been fired.
I'm willing to bet you anything that it's because of the "whistle blower" laws. I'm speaking of McQueary of course, but I have no idea why Curley or Schultz aren't canned unless they somehow fall under the same laws they as well. I imagine they are going through all the legality of everything before they just fire them right out.


Something this big was bound to have whispers. (even from when the police investigated in '98) So wonder how many Board of Trustees knew as well?
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McQueary is the worst in all of this (save the obvious choice of Sandusky). He saw a 58 year old man sodomizing a kid. He was apparently 28 years old at the time 6'4 200 something pounds. I don't know about you but in a fight I would have thought that McQueary had the upper hand.

I mean if he had seen him naked in the showers with the kid that would have been one thing, because even though thats inappropriate it still leaves a little room for reasonable doubt. However from what I'm hearing he actually saw the rape and there is nothing to misinterpret about that situation. He caught him red handed and rather then saving the kid from a feeble old man he ran and left that kid to suffer through more abuse, not even calling the police. That is unacceptable.

Apparently one of the alleged reasons as to why he isn't being fired is to avoid any further liability. A university firing a whistle blower is apparently a great way to get sued.


"Golly gee Joe Pa this is great. Putting my career ahead of the needs of that 10 year old boy......totally worth it"
I doubt McQueary is a unique case, nor is his cowardice "special" to him. I would suspect most of the outraged wanting his head would have, given a purely "tabula rasa" state of mind prior to such an incident, behaved similarly. This is not to excuse McQueary, but to point out that the many talking heads crucifying him for his non-escalation of violence would likely not have resorted to violence in their own right, despite their own self-perceptions to the contrary.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:01 PM   #261
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I tell you what. The Patriot News is on top of things. I applaud them for their professionalism and for their journalism.


A Patriot-News Special Report: Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky? There were many missed chances to investigate as early as 1995 | PennLive.com


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The earliest documented report of possible abuse at the hands of Sandusky is in 1995, when his now-legally adopted son was still a teenage foster child in his home.

The adoption file for Matt Sandusky, who had a different name at the time, contains letters of concern from his mother to children and youth officials and to a Centre County judge.

Matt’s biological mother, Debra Long, testified before the grand jury.

Matt, 33, is not one of the victims in the grand jury presentment, but he did testify before the grand jury.

Sandusky’s attorney, Joe Amendola, said Long is upset with Sandusky for helping her son and her allegations are not based in fact. Matt went to live with the Sandusky family after he was caught setting fire to a barn in 1995.

Children and Youth Services placed him with the Sandusky family at Jerry Sandusky’s request. He knew Matt through The Second Mile.

In his book, “Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story” several pages are devoted to Matt.

“He became an instant challenge for me,” Sandusky writes.

Debra Long was allowed to visit her son only one-half day per month after he went to live with the Sanduskys.

About four months after he went to live with Jerry, Matt attempted suicide with a girl who was also staying at Sandusky’s house.
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I doubt McQueary is a unique case, nor is his cowardice "special" to him. I would suspect most of the outraged wanting his head would have, given a purely "tabula rasa" state of mind prior to such an incident, behaved similarly. This is not to excuse McQueary, but to point out that the many talking heads crucifying him for his non-escalation of violence would likely not have resorted to violence in their own right, despite their own self-perceptions to the contrary.
Ritchie Reacts To Sandusky Scandal - ESPN Video - ESPN

Jon Ritchie gives a emotional breakdown of his relationship with Sandusky and even says that knowing Sandusky the way he did, he probably would have reacted the same way as McQueary initially due to the shock factor.

He then goes on to say that once it sunk it, that's when he would have taken it to the proper authorities or at least followed up once his superiors did nothing.
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This is a follow up on Smoots post about McQueary's administrative leave.


McQueary tells PSU wideouts he's out as coach and in "protective custody" | PennLive.com


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Penn State's deposed receivers coach Mike McQueary, today placed on what the school called "administrative leave," moments ago told his receivers on a brief conference call that he was in "protective custody" at a secluded location not in State College.


Also, Sandusky was recruiting for Penn State last year is seems, and since the newsbreak the recruits have been jumping off Penn State's sinking ship.

Penn State Scandal Impacts High School Recruits - Greenville News Story - WYFF Greenville

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He's VP of Finance. Usually some stiff overseas the police department, but usually has 0 to do with law enforcement or making sure things are processed. That's how it is here at ECU and most likely that way across the nation. People want to say "well he was in charge of the police department", but that doesn't fly. Police officers are bound to different duties than say some guy of finance.
Fair enough then. But even so, Schultz broke Pennsylvania law by keeping his mouth shut.
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This is a follow up on Smoots post about McQueary's administrative leave.


McQueary tells PSU wideouts he's out as coach and in "protective custody" | PennLive.com






Also, Sandusky was recruiting for Penn State last year is seems, and since the newsbreak the recruits have been jumping off Penn State's sinking ship.

Penn State Scandal Impacts High School Recruits - Greenville News Story - WYFF Greenville

It makes sense to keep him protected, not only from the "mob" enraged by his nonaction but those who don't want his testimony to get them convicted, i.e Sandusky, Schultz, etc.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:53 PM   #266
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He was VP of Finance and also oversaw Human Resources and the University Police

And he had such a distinguished career at Penn State that a couple of months ago they named a child care center after him....sigh
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Jon Ritchie gives a emotional breakdown of his relationship with Sandusky and even says that knowing Sandusky the way he did, he probably would have reacted the same way as McQueary initially due to the shock factor.

He then goes on to say that once it sunk it, that's when he would have taken it to the proper authorities or at least followed up once his superiors did nothing.
And to me, that's where McQueary f'ed up. Yes - we all like to think we would have kicked the sh** out Sandusky. I certainly hope I would have - but, as SCP said, walking in on something so shocking, I just don't know what I would have done. I may have been stunned into inaction for some short time - maybe even a long time. At some point within the next 24 hours, though, the police AND Paterno would have been notified. And, at 28, I guarantee that I would not have had to call Dad first.

McQueary was dead wrong. I can see that right now, right this instant and for any number of reasons it might not be prudent for the school or the police to bust his balls, but, eventually, I hope he gets a full dose of justice.
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And to me, that's where McQueary f'ed up. Yes - we all like to think we would have kicked the sh** out Sandusky. I certainly hope I would have - but, as SCP said, walking in on something so shocking, I just don't know what I would have done. I may have been stunned into inaction for some short time - maybe even a long time. At some point within the next 24 hours, though, the police AND Paterno would have been notified. And, at 28, I guarantee that I would not have had to call Dad first.

McQueary was dead wrong. I can see that right now, right this instant and for any number of reasons it might not be prudent for the school or the police to bust his balls, but, eventually, I hope he gets a full dose of justice.
And what about his dad? I mean why didn't he step in and call the police and say "my son just called me and told me he witnessed..."

And speaking of dads, you're one JoeRedskin. Maybe you could answer my question from earlier in this thread.
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And to me, that's where McQueary f'ed up. Yes - we all like to think we would have kicked the sh** out Sandusky. I certainly hope I would have - but, as SCP said, walking in on something so shocking, I just don't know what I would have done. I may have been stunned into inaction for some short time - maybe even a long time. At some point within the next 24 hours, though, the police AND Paterno would have been notified. And, at 28, I guarantee that I would not have had to call Dad first.

McQueary was dead wrong. I can see that right now, right this instant and for any number of reasons it might not be prudent for the school or the police to bust his balls, but, eventually, I hope he gets a full dose of justice.
His actions could very well be influenced by residual Irish-American cultural values, an emphasis on family being one of them. This is not to excuse his behavior, but rather to make it more understandable why he decided to do what he did.

Not to mention that Sandusky's relationship with him had far greater deal of closeness and trust than a typical player-coach relationship since the families knew each other.
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:30 PM   #270
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Pretty emotional pre-game scene in State College. Seeing all the tears and emotions of the students/fans... I do really feel bad for all loyal Penn State fans/alums/students that had nothing to do with any of this. I know what it's like to love a football program and school with all of your heart like that.
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