Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Media?

Giantone · 03-19-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Glen Beck was also on CNN/HLN at one point. He may have actually been on CNN for a longer time period than he was on Fox.

The truth is MSNBC is much more opinionated than anyother news source, including the evil Fox News. Something even more telling is this quote:

Pew Study Finds MSNBC the Most Opinionated Cable News Channel By Far - Forbes

There are a few reasons why Fox is so popular:
Smoking hot news anchors
Extremely high quality journalism and excellent production, compared to competitors
Conservative bias, in a world where ever other media outlet has a liberal bias

ignorance?

CRedskinsRule · 03-19-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Also, lets look at the sample size of that graph. The graph looks at each network on 3 days (Mon 11/26, Wed 12/5, Tue 12/18). Far from a definitive source on either side. I'm not familiar with each channel's 'lineup' on those days of the week, but day of the week can greatly skew opinion vs fact.

It doesn't matter which news source it is, I don't consider this poll very reliable. I also am curious what they consider opinion vs fact and how they split the two up. What we should really be concerned about is that 2 out of 3 are more opinion than fact, and the one that has more facts is closer than I'd like.

The full research did take more than just those 3 days to analyze trends and topics, I would imagine pew used a representative sampling for graphing purposes:

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Originally Posted by from graph's article

To get a sense of the long-term trends in coverage, Pew’s researchers analyzed more than 700 hours of cable news programming consisting of more than 15,000 individual stories from 2007 and 2012.

HailGreen28 · 03-19-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

lol,....you mean other than turning on the TV and watching it myself and listen to what others say about it,no.
Glen Beck was on Fox at one point correct?

and I know this guy is all about "real news",not opinion!

Bill O'Reilly GOES CRAZY In EPIC SEGMENT. This Is BULL BLANK. (O'Reilly vs Colmes) - YouTube

And Al Sharpton is on MSNBC. I suspect we'll say that everything we agree with is less biased than what we disagree with.

'Course in this discussion, I guess we can just categorize your claim as "opinion" rather than "news", and move on. Lol.

Chico23231 · 03-19-2013, 09:13 PM

Anybody who agrees with absolutely everything the President says and does like Sharpton, Chris Matthews and Madow is a complete f*(cking moron. Just like Fox pundits (Hannity, etc.) did when Bush was in the office.

People need to start thinking for themselves again. Its really effing sad.

Giantone · 03-19-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

And Al Sharpton is on MSNBC. I suspect we'll say that everything we agree with is less biased than what we disagree with.

'Course in this discussion, I guess we can just categorize your claim as "opinion" rather than "news", and move on. Lol.

...you mean your claim.

CRedskinsRule · 03-19-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Anybody who agrees with absolutely everything the President says and does like Sharpton, Chris Matthews and Madow is a complete f*(cking moron. Just like Fox pundits (Hannity, etc.) did when Bush was in the office.

People need to start thinking for themselves again. Its really effing sad.

100% agree. its crazy how party lines get spouted from both sides while vilifying or demonizing the opposite side.

HailGreen28 · 03-20-2013, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

...you mean your claim.

And what claim of mine in this conversation would that be, giantone?

Meanwhile in regards to your claim "most people think it's the opposite", re: the survey of MSNBC being the most opinion based, again you have nothing.

firstdown · 03-20-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Most people believe it to be the other way around.

If most people believe it to be the other way around then why does FOX have the best ratings?

Daseal · 03-20-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The full research did take more than just those 3 days to analyze trends and topics, I would imagine pew used a representative sampling for graphing purposes:

Point taken, I was relying on the text on the graph. I withdraw previous statements.

Giantone · 03-20-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

If most people believe it to be the other way around then why does FOX have the best ratings?

Without knowing what demographic was used I say they only polled Fox people.

firstdown · 03-20-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Without knowing what demographic was used I say they only polled Fox people.

It was done by Pew Reserchers. You didn't even read the article.

To get a sense of the long-term trends in coverage, Pew’s researchers analyzed more than 700 hours of cable news programming consisting of more than 15,000 individual stories from 2007 and 2012.

mlmpetert · 04-09-2013, 05:07 PM

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Even in death, conservatives can’t get an even break – especially from the Associated Press. Writer J.P. Freire

caught the supposedly neutral news service bashing the late Margaret Thatcher

in her obituary, while lionizing socialist nutball Hugo Chavez

in his obit just one month earlier.

To AP, Britain’s first woman prime minister was an autocrat who “imposed her will,” by “breaking the unions,” until she was pushed out by a “mutiny.” “Love her or loathe her,” the obituary began. It was obvious which one AP chose. And all that in the first 70 words recalling her 11 years of service to Britain and the world.

Then there’s Hugo Chavez, who AP called a “fiery populist,” who “crusaded” and “championed.” AP didn’t even hint at Chavez’s controversial nature until the third paragraph and there they still softened the criticism. “He polarized Venezuelans with his confrontational and domineering style, yet was also a masterful communicator and strategist who tapped into Venezuelan nationalism to win broad support, particularly among the poor,” wrote AP.

Associated Press bias obvious even in Thatcher, Chavez obituaries | Fox News

RedskinRat · 04-09-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Associated Press bias obvious even in Thatcher, Chavez obituaries | Fox News

:vomit:

RedskinRat · 04-23-2013, 03:09 PM

Hacked AP tweets explosions at White House injures President Obama causing DOW Jones to plunge 100 points.

A terrifying report of explosions at the White House injuring President Obama caused the DOW Jones Industrial average to plunge 100 points after the Associated Press' Twitter account was allegedly hacked.

'Breaking: Two Explosions in the White House and Barack Obama is injured,' the news agency Tweeted just after 1pm on Tuesday.

The White House and AP quickly assured the public that the report was not true but word didn't appear to come fast enough to those frantically responding on Wall Street.

The Media AND Wall Street. Absurd.

NC_Skins · 05-08-2013, 09:07 AM

Nancy Grace and Ashleigh Banfield Hold Split-Screen Interview in Same Parking Lot - Dashiell Bennett and Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire

*sigh*

CNN has completely fallen off the wagon. Not even going to talk about their shitty reporting during the Boston bombing incident.

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Chico23231 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 37 Posts: 11,117	Re: Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Media? Anybody who agrees with absolutely everything the President says and does like Sharpton, Chris Matthews and Madow is a complete f*(cking moron. Just like Fox pundits (Hannity, etc.) did when Bush was in the office. People need to start thinking for themselves again. Its really effing sad. __________________ @RSherman_25 just make sure you stay in Seattle cause without that pass rush you are who we thought you were. 5th rd PK no speed good hands — DeAngelo Hall (@DeAngeloHall23) March 14, 2014

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RedskinRat New HC, new hope! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,702	Re: Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Media? Hacked AP tweets explosions at White House injures President Obama causing DOW Jones to plunge 100 points. A terrifying report of explosions at the White House injuring President Obama caused the DOW Jones Industrial average to plunge 100 points after the Associated Press' Twitter account was allegedly hacked. 'Breaking: Two Explosions in the White House and Barack Obama is injured,' the news agency Tweeted just after 1pm on Tuesday. The White House and AP quickly assured the public that the report was not true but word didn't appear to come fast enough to those frantically responding on Wall Street. The Media AND Wall Street. Absurd.

05-08-2013, 09:07 AM	#90
NC_Skins MVP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,426	Re: Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Media? Nancy Grace and Ashleigh Banfield Hold Split-Screen Interview in Same Parking Lot - Dashiell Bennett and Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire sigh CNN has completely fallen off the wagon. Not even going to talk about their shitty reporting during the Boston bombing incident. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty Last edited by NC_Skins; 05-08-2013 at 10:12 AM.

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Has Anyone Else Completely Lost Faith In The Media?

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