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Old 01-19-2012, 10:49 AM   #61
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Re: Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

Just getting back to respond to some of this, and does anyone know how this is getting pushed through Congress considering there are some MAJOR opponents of it.
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Old 01-19-2012, 11:47 AM   #62
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Geez, I went to OpenCongress to see about the status of SOPA, and saw that there are currently 3760+ bills in front of the House of Representatives, and 2020+ bills in front of the Senate. No, I didn't look at each one, or check them all, I took that site's count as valid, but those numbers just reinforce my belief that the government is too wild and out of control. There is no way 537 people are effectively judging those bills and forwarding only the "good" ones on. Further, even if they were, there is no way that the President can fully understand every paper that he is signing into law. maybe we could get an amendment to a bill snuck through that limits the number of bills per session, and the length of the text of any introduced bill (so people don't make neverending bills)

But back to SOPA, this page does a good job listing out money backers and supporters/opponents
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There has to be a sarcastic comment that I can't come up with but one of the listed opponent organizations to the bill is: ICanHasCheezburger

we are doomed
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LOL ... Seriously. How often does that happen?

Does anyone know when they are coming up for votes?
I read that voting will be on the 24th.
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There has to be a sarcastic comment that I can't come up with but one of the listed opponent organizations to the bill is: ICanHasCheezburger

we are doomed
SOPA controversy has Congress in a pickle?

Internet companies mustard up the courage to fight SOPA?

Can SOPA ketchup to online pirates?
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as to the question of how is this bill still in consideration:
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Top recipients for ALL supporting interest groups
Name Amount Received
Rep. Eric Cantor [R, VA-7] $668,192
Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28] $590,398
Rep. Steny Hoyer [D, MD-5] $557,107
Rep. James Clyburn [D, SC-6] $486,927
Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8] $465,500
Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1] $438,839
Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8] $416,100
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13] $409,019
Rep. John Boehner [R, OH-8] $403,800
Rep. Gary Peters [D, MI-9] $395,798

Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] $3,502,624
Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY] $2,648,770
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY] $2,080,651
Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA] $1,431,843
Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA] $1,364,872
Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH] $1,363,009
Sen. Patrick Toomey [R, PA] $1,291,744
Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO] $1,019,172
Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL] $911,296
Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT] $905,310
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Top recipients for ALL opposing interest groups
Name Amount Received
Rep. William Owens [D, NY-23] $303,609
Rep. Chellie Pingree [D, ME-1] $204,200
Rep. Gary Peters [D, MI-9] $168,370
Rep. Niki Tsongas [D, MA-5] $153,550
Rep. Gerald Connolly [D, VA-11] $110,530
Rep. Kurt Schrader [D, OR-5] $108,550
Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8] $100,050
Rep. James Moran [D, VA-8] $99,750
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13] $97,300
Rep. James Himes [D, CT-4] $96,500

Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO] $1,359,304
Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA] $388,914
Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] $339,226
Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY] $303,434
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY] $289,894
Sen. Patrick Toomey [R, PA] $281,655
Sen. Patty Murray [D, WA] $280,072
Sen. Chris Coons [D, DE] $212,550
Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D, CT] $170,199
Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA] $152,369
Money talks
and it clearly pays to be a Senator in favor of this bill
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:02 PM   #67
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SOPA controversy has Congress in a pickle?

Internet companies mustard up the courage to fight SOPA?

Can SOPA ketchup to online pirates?
LOL

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ICanHasCheezburger but don't sell me no SOPA
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as to the question of how is this bill still in consideration:


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Money talks
and it clearly pays to be a Senator in favor of this bill

How is Harry Reid on both lists? MFer is taking money from both people in favor of the bill and against it? Really?
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:20 PM   #69
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Keep in mind you have PIPA and SOPA, one authored by the House and the other by the Senate. Both are becoming unpopular by the minute.

Harry Reid has said he won't whip Democratic votes, essentially releasing Dems who were on the fence, but didn't want to go public. So basically Reid has given them cover to vote against it -- or at least vote their conscience. I believe it goes up for a procedural test vote on Tuesday.
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You know people talk all the time about the ruling class and how the corporations try to buy politicians and how they mastermind how to drain money from the poor without anyone noticing but after seeing how poorly they wrote this bill, and the examples they used to support it (China made it work, why can't we), as well as calling the blackouts abuse of power, well suffice to say I have a hard time believing these people are really pulling the strings.

Sorry I know people want to believe in the Illuminati the free masons, secret societies, etc but in order to successfully pull something like that off you can't be borderline retarded. Which a lot of these senators and Hollywood executives happen to be when it comes to the internet.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:14 PM   #71
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #72
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:01 PM   #73
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Piratebay.org responds to SOPA. It's a good read, and a ironic one concerning the film industry.

http://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/sopa.txt


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INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012.
PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.

Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for
the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person
to own the copyright to a motion picture.

Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures
in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call
Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent.
There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like
Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they
circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works,
without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the
studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being
able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.
If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing
other peoples rules.

The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the
rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow
people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take
over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).
It's all based on the fact that we're competition.
We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.

And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech.
We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws
should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.

The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the
USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this:
The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence.
They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the
rest of us obedient consumers.
The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with
trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that
you will stop them, before we all drown.

SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're
creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls
become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching
movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.

In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones
is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had
no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy
in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more
honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.

Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.

THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
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Good for the Pirate Bay. It's funny to think how much of a hypocrite everyone in this whole ordeal is. Murdoch speaks out against piracy yet was more then happy to phone hack the British Royal Family among countless others. Hollywood claims to be loosing money yet can still afford to pay actors like Johnny Depp $40 million to star in a movie.

It seems that no matter what outdated establishments will cry kicking and screaming anytime someone threatens them. Hollywood cried out against people bringing camcorders to movies yet some odd years later they publish articles teaching educators how to set up a camcorder in front of a flat screen to record shows for educational purposes.

The bottom line is this. People are still willing to pay. Itunes, Netflix, Hulu, CrunchyRoll are all examples. If you really are loosing money, which is doubtful, it's because you refuse to give up on your outdated business models in hopes of controlling that which you no longer have control over.
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