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Old 03-23-2012, 10:10 AM   #16
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case

Only one person can say for sure and that's the shooter.

Calling people '****ing morons' isn't helping the discussion.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:29 AM   #17
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Yeah, I can't even see how it applies in this case even in the most elastic of definitions.

He (the shooter) wasn't threatened, wasn't in his home or car.

It just adds fuel to the weak argument of anti-gun panty-wetters, which is what annoys me the most about the case.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:40 PM   #18
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Police Chief for Stanford has stepped down. Jumped before he was pushed.

They should have at least taken the shooter in for a chat.
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Yeah, I can't even see how it applies in this case even in the most elastic of definitions.

He (the shooter) wasn't threatened, wasn't in his home or car.

It just adds fuel to the weak argument of anti-gun panty-wetters, which is what annoys me the most about the case.
On the same page you cry about people calling you a moron and then sling insults. Hypocrisy is fun!
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Sorry, didn't know you were there, hippie.....

I wasn't aware I had to be at the scene to evaluate and determine what happened from the facts on record...I suppose I should make my way to Darfur too before I should condemn the Janjaweeds.


Try exercising your brain once in a while... at the very least it will make feel smarter.
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Only one person can say for sure and that's the shooter.

Calling people '****ing morons' isn't helping the discussion.
Yet you have the fcking nerve to call the kid a "mouthy teenager." Get the fck out here dude with your bullshit. You have zero credibility.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #22
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I think the problem the police are probably having is they don't have a witness to how the initial altercation started. All they have is the shooter saying he was attacked and a witness that saw the kid beating on the shooter.
Where are you getting your facts from? The facts reported from all media outlets is as follows:

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A witness to the physical altercation just prior to the shooting stated that Martin was on top of Zimmerman and beating him up, while the older man yelled for help.[27] Another witness, Mary Cutcher, has said in a TV interview that "there was no punching, no hitting going on at the time, no wrestling",[28] but police say that she gave an official account to them that agreed with Zimmerman's story.[29][30] Cutcher and her roommate told CNN journalist Anderson Cooper that their own account of the incident to the police did not agree with Zimmerman's, and that they had demanded that the police retract that incorrect statement. They also said, about the police's attitude at the scene, that "they were siding with him [Zimmerman] from the start" and that they heard the pair in their backyard and a "very young voice" whining, with no sounds of a fight. They heard a gunshot; the crying stopped immediately, and they saw Zimmerman on his knees pinning Martin down on the ground.[31]

The police took Trayvon Martin's body and stored it in a morgue for three days, calling him "John Doe". Martin's family accuses the police of not asking any of the neighbours if they recognized Martin.[32] According to David Horsey, they also did not check his cellphone to find someone he knew.[33]

Regardless of what exactly happened it doesn't change the fact that you have this cunt following a young boy after being ordered not to and then shot him. On top of that you have an indifferent police that didn't absolutely nothing and is still doing absolutely nothing.
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On the same page you cry about people calling you a moron and then sling insults. Hypocrisy is fun!
Where do I insult anyone here? Where am I crying?

Daseal, please feel free to ignore any of my responses unless you can stay on point and contribute.
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I wasn't aware I had to be at the scene to evaluate and determine what happened from the facts on record...I suppose I should make my way to Darfur too before I should condemn the Janjaweeds.
You sound WAAAAY to personally invested to make a reasoned argument based on how you're posting. Calm down.

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Adjust your head-pointer, the sweat is making you miss words.

How smart would I need to be to post on this forum? They allow you to post so I'm happy I can exceed whatever entrance exam you've passed.
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Yet you have the fcking nerve to call the kid a "mouthy teenager." Get the fck out here dude with your bullshit. You have zero credibility.
Line up 1,000 teenagers and I'll point out the 999 that are mouthy. Maybe I'm just inundated with mouthy teenagers where I live but I can only go by my experience.

And cursing someone out on a forum certainly lends an air of credibility....

/sarc

Your hostility is adorable.
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redskinrat its this law
Sanford police have claimed that they could not charge Zimmerman with shooting and killing the child because Zimmerman claimed self-defense under Floridaís Stand Your Ground law.
Out on the street before you can use deadly force, most jurisdictions require that you first try to retreat. See if you can get away safely before you take out the gun and blow somebody away. But Floridaís law is different. Florida has a law, along with 17 states, that says you can stand your ground. Which means you donít have that obligation to try to run first. So, in Florida, as long as you have a reasonable belief that your life and safety is in danger, you can use force to defend yourself, even deadly force. And now thatís the situation theyíre suggesting.
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thought this was interesting....

Host Gayle King brought up an interesting wrinkle in the story. While it has been widely speculated that Martinís death was racially-motivated on some level, King noted that Zimmermanís family have shared that he is himself a Spanish-speaking minority with black family members of his own.
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You sound WAAAAY to personally invested to make a reasoned argument based on how you're posting. Calm down.

I am personally invested because if it can happen to Trayvon it could happen to my on son. Why shouldn't anyone else for that matter be invested? Or maybe the thinking is "just another nigger in the wrong place at the wrong time...right?"


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Adjust your head-pointer, the sweat is making you miss words.

How smart would I need to be to post on this forum? They allow you to post so I'm happy I can exceed whatever entrance exam you've passed.

Apparently not very smart but this has been the case for a while. It just so happens that it's becoming more and more blatant nowadays. You would think this case wouldn't require much brain power to analyze the fail points in this case.

Hearing you lot you would think Trayvon murdered himself. It's disgusting.
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thought this was interesting....

Host Gayle King brought up an interesting wrinkle in the story. While it has been widely speculated that Martinís death was racially-motivated on some level, King noted that Zimmermanís family have shared that he is himself a Spanish-speaking minority with black family members of his own.
There are two reasons why race played a role.

1. Zimmerman spotted the black teen and assuming he didn't belong in the predominately white neighborhood.
2. Police action after the murder of Trayvon.


And so what if the killer's father claims he is Hispanic and has some black sister in-law? At the end of the day he isn't black and he profiled the kid. I mean, how many fcking white kids did he follow around prior to Trayvon huh? What happened is complete bullshit, from the murder to police action after the murder.

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thought this was interesting....

Host Gayle King brought up an interesting wrinkle in the story. While it has been widely speculated that Martinís death was racially-motivated on some level, King noted that Zimmermanís family have shared that he is himself a Spanish-speaking minority with black family members of his own.
What if he hates those family members too? I don't think he is "join the KKK-racist" but what if he dislikes black people, and that fed into his belief that Trayvon was up to no good and therefore deserved to be followed?

Look at it this way, I'm white, my family is white, does that mean I love white people? Absolutely not. In fact, I dislike a large portion of white people that have grown up in better circumstances than myself, mainly for their pampered upbringing that coincides with their lazy lifestyle. Do I dislike them enough to go into their upper class neighborhoods packing and looking for trouble? No. But my entire point is this: Just because Zimmerman himself is spanish and has african-american family members does not mean he himself does not have some sort of prejudice towards other african-americans.
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